I agree with your general m$ suspicion but I don't think the analogy is
quite right.  Borland have changed the structure/format of DFM files a
couple of times without changing the Delphi language.

If you have a server written in .net then the change to XAML won't
effect you.  If you have a client app written in winforms and you want
to use the new XAML look and feel then you will have to rewrite your GUI
but because we are smart developers we always separate our GUI and
business logic anyway ;-)

I would agree that m$ didn't put much time into the winforms components.
Their visual inheritance still isn't as good as Delphi's.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Neven MacEwan
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2005 3:27 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Skill shortage?

Guy

XAML is just a GUI definition language in the same way that Delphi is
just a GUI definition language, Though I'm not an expert on XAML look at
the Thunderbird email client (our recommend client) which is written in
XUL.

.net will not die, but it if it is/was the panacea solution why XAML?

Given m$ capricious history I could easily see them moving the focus
from .net for GUI dev to XAML if they perceived that they could not
control .net (ie Mono became a prevalent option for deploying .net apps)
because XUL is so developed it would not be worthwhile to change to
compete with a johnny come lately

I feel sorry for the developers deluded/bullied into the M$ web, on one
hand they have got managment droning 'we must use microsoft...' and on
the other M$ jerking their chain every couple of years

As my friend John would say, 'just keep on using vaseline, it doesn't
mean you agree with them, it just makes your life less painfull'

Neven

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> XAML is just a GUI definition language so I don't see how that means 
> that m$ is going to kill .net?  It might make your current WinForms 
> solution obsolete but .net as a language & runtime environment is here

> to stay.
> 
> Guy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Wilkin, Kurt
> Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2005 1:55 a.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: RE: [DUG] Skill shortage?
> 
> Nah, Sun must be stoked at the number of future Java developers 
> getting trained by m$ (is there even a Java equivalent of MSDN?) And 
> m$ have basically committed to killing dotnet with that whole xaml 
> thing in the future (though it won't look like that when they announce

> it - if it ever does eventuate).
> 
> Meanwhile everyone just keeps building better (for various meanings of
> 'better') web apps.
> 
> Cheers, Kurt.
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