'As my friend John would say, 'just keep on using vaseline, it doesn't mean you agree with them, it just makes your life less painfull'
Love it !

I agree with the rest of you comments however. It seems that MS (and now Borland) are jumping on to a new band wagon every few years. Look at ADO, a few years ago this was IT, according to MS it was out with ODBC etc and ADO all the way. I believe MS aren't even doing any more development in this any more.
// Ramblings / conspiracy theory begins

My personal theory is that .NET is an emergency backup if MS looses control of the desktop. If they control .NET and everyone writes apps for it, MS can go from the OS company that runs the most / best apps to - MS the platform provider that provides the environment that most / best apps run on. It wouldn't take much for them to make this shift and start making money from it. They probably have OSX and Linux support ready and waiting 'just in case', If you don't believe me just look at the MAC, OSX has been desinged to also work on Intel for years. I know there is MONO but it wouldn't take much to make the MONO environment incompatible if MS wanted a monopoly. At the moment they don't because MONO encourages people to develop .NET apps, which is what they want.

// Ramblings end





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Neven MacEwan wrote:

Guy

XAML is just a GUI definition language in the same way that Delphi is just a GUI definition language, Though I'm not an expert on XAML look at the Thunderbird email client (our recommend client) which is written in XUL.

.net will not die, but it if it is/was the panacea solution why XAML?

Given m$ capricious history I could easily see them moving the focus from .net for GUI dev to XAML if they perceived that they could not control .net (ie Mono became a prevalent option for deploying .net apps) because XUL is so developed it would not be worthwhile to change to compete with a johnny come lately

I feel sorry for the developers deluded/bullied into the M$ web, on one hand they have got managment droning 'we must use microsoft...' and on the other M$ jerking their chain every couple of years

As my friend John would say, 'just keep on using vaseline, it doesn't mean you agree with them, it just makes your life less painfull'

Neven

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

XAML is just a GUI definition language so I don't see how that means
that m$ is going to kill .net?  It might make your current WinForms
solution obsolete but .net as a language & runtime environment is here
to stay.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Wilkin, Kurt
Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2005 1:55 a.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: RE: [DUG] Skill shortage?

Nah, Sun must be stoked at the number of future Java developers getting
trained by m$ (is there even a Java equivalent of MSDN?) And m$ have
basically committed to killing dotnet with that whole xaml thing in the
future (though it won't look like that when they announce it - if it
ever does eventuate).

Meanwhile everyone just keeps building better (for various meanings of
'better') web apps.

Cheers, Kurt.

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