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Also check out the whole section:

http://info.borland.com/techpubs/delphi/

There is the Delphi 2005 (1676 pages in PDF format) help. Check out page 109 for more on debugging.

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Gary

At 11:08 on 15/02/2006 you wrote

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>From: Leigh Wanstead, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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>Hi John,

>

>In case that you do not have access the book. Here is an article published

>by Borland.

>

>http://info.borland.com/techpubs/delphi/delphi5/qs/environ.html

>

>Search section title Debugging applications and you will get your answer.

>

>Regards

>Leigh

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: "John Bird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>To: "'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'" <[email protected]>

>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:31:20 +1300

>Subject: RE: [DUG] I broke the D2006 debugger

>

>> "just basic knowledge about how to debug in Delphi" you might tell me

>> where

>> this is documented in the debugger help, and where this basic knowledge

>> comes from - how did you get it for instance? (someone told you,

>> hopefully

>> kindly). Remember most operations in a GUI environment are based on

>> many

>> implicit assumptions on how things on the screen behave. For someone

>> not

>> educated in an assumption they are not obvious...

>>

>> I remember reading of Steve Balmer watching through a two way mirror at

>> one

>> of the first useability labs of MS Word for windows - users were

>> instructed

>> to drag the mouse down to scroll down the page, and some users, new to

>> a

>> mouse, were seen to run the mouse down the leg of the desk. He

>> literally

>> tore his hair out at how much he realised users had to be taought and

>> said

>> the profound lesson is that you cannot assume users understand anything

>> that

>> is obvious to you....they will not and they will break it!

>>

>> "He who asks a question is a fool for a moment, he who doesn't ask a

>> question is a fool forever"

>> -Albert Einstein

>>

>> John

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

>> Behalf Of Leigh Wanstead

>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2006 7:59 a.m.

>> To: [email protected]

>> Subject: RE: [DUG] I broke the D2006 debugger

>>

>>

>> Hi John,

>>

>> I did not receive your previous email. But base on what you said in

>> your

>> post, I must say that is just basic knowledge about how to debug in

>> Delphi.

>> I think Delphi do a proper job as what instructed to do. Nothing wrong

>> about

>> Delphi. The only thing I can suggest is to read a Delphi starter book

>> which

>> I recalled that I suggested you long time ago in DUG mailing list IIRC.

>>

>> Regards

>> Leigh

>> http://www.salenz.com

>>

>> > I wasn't sure how to close it (did it via browser), but I added a

>> > comment I regard it as closed - except I suggested that the IDE

>> should

>> > either not allow breakpoints to be entered if debug compile is turned

>> > off, or warn if

>> > they are there.

>> >

>> > Otherwise people like me who don't know will be completely mystified,

>> > even if its obvious to others. Remember the days before you knew

>> > really really

>> > obvious things - someone had to teach you them. I still remember my

>> > first

>> > day on a computer keyboard when someone told me to press Control/Z,

>> and

>> > I

>> > said "What is this Control thing?" now it seems obvious but it sure

>> as

>> > hell

>> > wasn't then. And the IDE in this case didn't help with any hint....

>> >

>> > In the end I solved it by taking the hint about blue dots missing and

>> > googling "delphi blue dots missing when compile" and it gave lots of

>> > references about search paths (which wasn't the problem) and stray

>> > dcu's (which also wasn't) and one reference among dozens about

>> > compiler option -D

>> > and +D (which sort of was).

>> >

>> > John

>>

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