I had quite a read of the Lazarus site and FAQ's and there were lots on
complaints about the speed of the compiler and linker on Windows....

The other issue was the enormous sizes of executables, although there are
standard ways to strip them.  There is a lot of calls there for a better
compiler and linker....

The strong points of Lazarus were:

-the general comments on the compatability with standard VCL Delphi were
good.
-Windows Mac OSX Linux.  Real native binaries on each platform...

It seems to me that if anyone in Devco/Borland was paying attention to a
niche in the market that no-one does is a language that can be compiled to
native code on all common platforms....even if you have to stay with a
defined VCL tool set this is a wonderful idea.   

Why don't Devco/Borland talk to the Lazarus people, to make more portability
between standard Delphi and Lazarus, with the aim of allowing Delphi to be
plugged in as an alternative for Win32 and maybe linux as well.  Those who
want it free get the Lazarus limited version, those who want a mature full
version can plug in Delphi instead....but they pay for it as they do now.
The advantage of doing this for Devco/Borland is that in return for helping
on the Windows side, the Lazarus community gives them conversion tools etc
able to take real Delphi code into linux or Apple OSX......that sounds like
a pretty cool scheme to me and a real selling point for Delphi.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phil Scadden
Sent: Thursday, 27 April 2006 4:16 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: RE: [DUG] More Delphi news...


I am pretty nervous about the article too. I have eclipse - its got its nice
bits but it doesn't let me write Object pascal. And I would have to say that
D2006 is much nicer as an IDE. What I DONT do is spend money on all the
little AML tools that Borland thinks we should be using. Why? because open
source stuff does all I need in that direction. Where would Delphi be if
Borland had invested in the tools and language instead of all this other
crap. No.. must not get started on this..doesnt do any good and no one in
Borland is listening.

D2006 is actually getting me writing more stuff in Delphi but I am certainly
watching what happens else where. The pain of it is that I have to use C or
Fortran for MPI cluster stuff. Java is slowly getting there but still has
some major performance hurdles that I cant accept. Where it will end, I dont
know. I'm not moving to .net and still really looking for a substitute for
C++ which is what I use Delphi for. One that compile with MPI binding on
linux would be nice too.


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