I find Firefox and Opera both open quickly-around 10 seconds.......well
Opera is bit faster and reopened 4 tabs too...so if Firefox is Javascript
and D2006 (Win32) is native win32 code and takes 2 minutes to open....hmmm
interesting eh!!??

I tried the fast loader recommended earlier here and it actually slowed it
down, so I removed it.   I am sure Borland could do something to improve the
time taken loading all the bits and pieces, and also to stop the gradual
creep of BDS using more and more memory over a few hours, which means
quitting and waiting another minute for it to close and another 2 minutes to
open....for a native compiled app it has to be the slowest starting and
stopping program around...I am guessing that behind the scenes it is a whole
lot of loosely tied together pieces.....

(We are getting off-topic here...)
In a way I feel sorry for Opera - it's the best looking browser, most
standard, provides more of the screen for a website that any of the others
(Ie7, FF), and lots of really slick UI feaures-worth studying to see a lot
of the great ways they eliminate inactive stuff from the screen.  The Opera
transparent analogue clock widget is real cool too.

But I prefer a completely vanilla Firefox (no extensions)......why?  Only a
couple of silly little things....Firefox is quicker to open a long list of
bookmarks (you can press the first letter of a bookmark to jump to it), and
Operas tabs work a bit differently....ie going CTRL/Tab is more like Windows
Alt/Tab in that it swaps between the most recent ones.... Oh and FFv2 has
spell checker (now that is a killer feature in a browser!).

So that's the reason I wrote my own (Delphi) analog clock widget (The Opera
one does not run unless the browser is running).


John


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rob van der Linde
Sent: Friday, 11 August 2006 12:28 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi on Linux


Actually, when I said that (no kidding) part, I was actually praising
Firefox on how good it's Gecko engine really is, I was not trying to put it
down at all, I meant that Firefox is actually very fast considering it is
written in Javascript, I think they have done a wonderful job. I fully
realise how difficult it is to write a cross platform engine like that and
have the highest respect towards Mozilla.

Actually, that's note quite why Firefox is slower to load than IE. You need
to remember that IE is built into Windows and it actually starts when
Windows starts. I have once ready that if you take IE out of the Windows
shell (I am not sure if you can still do this), then IE will actually take
much longer to load, so we have to be fair here. Firefox actually only takes
a long time to start on first load. I have a gig of ram, and second load it
starts much faster. A P4 or Athlon optimised build can help lots too.

But if it's fast startup time you want, check out Opera, it's another great
browser, fully standards compliant too, and free, it starts up quicker than
Firefox though, but it just isn't me, a lot of people like it however.

On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 11:53 +1200, Phil Scadden wrote:
> > Firefox and Thunderbird are written in Javascript (no kidding), and 
> > the UI is done with XUL. The whole thing simply runs on an "engine" 
> > called Gecko, which handles (X)HTML, XUL, CSS, Javascript, etc.
> 
> Oh, that why it is such a dog to load. Could be worse - Oracle's java 
> clients are a great for illustrating why you want compiled 
> executables.
> 
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