I completely agree with Romain on that topic -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:[email protected]] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juni 2012 11:46 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: cdi-query
Still not totally agree on modules stuff (should it be pushed in another thread?), in particular from a user perspective. I think allowing users to take small bundle or an already aggregated one (shade) is a great feature. - Romain 2012/6/27 Thomas Hug <[email protected]> > @Mark, +1 on not being excessive on the amount of modules. As a user I > don't think I'd like maintaining another x dependencies, those POMs > are usually big enough :-) Anyway, depending on the amount of features > integrating for such a query API, that might well fall into the > "decent size" category. > > @Pete, +1 for the ServiceHandler - IMO very convenient when using > methods just as metadata (e.g. for calling stored procs, obviously JPA > queries or a JAX-RS client). > > @Jason, Bernard: Agree that I have rarely used the Home API in a > productive application, still I found it quite handy for prototyping. > Could be useful to add this on top of a query API (and create e.g. a > Forge scaffolding provider?). > > Cheers, > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Struberg [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Dienstag, 26. Juni 2012 07:58 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: cdi-query > > I fear that would get us into jarmageddon... > > We discussed the module structure at the very beginning, and we all > concluded that there are 2 reasons for introducing a new module: > .) a dependency to another project or EE api (like jta, jpa, jsf) > .) an area which is an completely own block and has a decent size (min > ~30..50 new classes) > > Since the whole JPA area doesn't have more than 10 classes yet, I do > not see a reason for introducing a new API for them. > > Also the whole EE vs SE is moot imo. Either we have a new API or not. > The classic J2EE patterns are dead dead dead anyway. EE-6 gave us much > better possibilities, so we should use them and not fall back to _old_ EE > patterns. > > What we could do is to disucss whether the 'jta' module would better > called 'deltaspike-jpa-ee' and not only contain JTA but also > TransactionAttributeType handling from EJB? > > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:30 AM > > Subject: Re: cdi-query > > > > +1 > > > > - Romain > > > > > > 2012/6/26 Gerhard Petracek <[email protected]> > > > >> @ pete: > >> +1 > >> > >> @ java-se vs java-ee features: > >> > >> we can think about a more fine-grained structure (similar to seam3). > >> e.g.: > >> deltaspike-jpa-transaction > >> deltaspike-jpa-query > >> ... > >> > >> regards, > >> gerhard > >> > >> > >> > >> 2012/6/25 Pete Muir <[email protected]> > >> > >> > Well, we were looking for some good use cases for the ServiceHandler. > >> > > >> > I would be in support of adding it to DS core, now we have a > >> strong > > use > >> > case. > >> > > >> > Property util should not be controversial. Maybe we can improve > > it's API > >> > whilst we are at it :-) > >> > > >> > On 25 Jun 2012, at 10:25, Thomas Hug wrote: > >> > > >> > > Eventually this came in a little early, but it's already on > > the radar: > >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-60 > >> > > > >> > > The current implementation mainly depends on the Solder > > ServiceHandler > >> > (as far as I remember not yet in DS, waiting for CDI 1.1) and > >> the Property > utils. > >> > > > >> > > Cheers, > >> > > Tom > >> > > > >> > > ________________________________________ > >> > > Von: Mark Struberg [[email protected]] > > Gesendet: Montag, > >> 25. Juni 2012 14:21 > > An: [email protected] > >> > > Betreff: Re: cdi-query > >> > > > >> > > +1 great stuff to review and add them! > >> > > > >> > > That would fit great into the deltaspike-jpa module, wdyt? > >> > > > >> > > LieGrue, > >> > > strub > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> From: Pete Muir <[email protected]> > >> To: > >> [email protected] > >> > >> Cc: > >> > >> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:53 PM > >> Subject: Re: > >> cdi-query > >> > >> IMO this would be a great thing to add! > >> > >> > >> > >> On 24 Jun 2012, at 16:56, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Hi, > >> > >>> > >> > >>> just browsed > >> > http://ctpconsulting.github.com/query/1.0.0.Alpha4/index.html > >> > >> and > >> > >>> it is really amazing (a spring-data CDI oriented). > >> > >>> > >> > >>> it is currently based on solder but since DS integrates a > > lot of this > >> > stuff > >> > >>> i wonder if it could be integrated in DS in a really > > portable way? > >> > >>> > >> > >>> - Romain > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >
