> It's some months that we have depot, and things have stalled.

I think we stalled coming into Apache (not sure why, for me timing &
events -- I have a multi-page internal blog posting bemoaning my misery with
Eclipse 3.0 [infra moving to https from http for SVN led me here], and
especially Eclipse w/ SVN.) I think I lost momentum w/ Depot internals, and
I lost my way from there. IMHO: We have to find a way to solidify design
decisions/choices, 'cos it can't be kept in ones head (and a wiki is
somewhat free-form).

> Depot is not pushing, it's not getting used. We have to give it another
> push. I'll try to give a hand, but I'm currently very active on Forrest.
> and Adam is joyfully bound to Gump, so we'll need all the help we can
> get :-)

Ah Gump, not so joyful some days. :( I am certainly cound to it --- I can't
seem to pull away, even when I want to. I've wanted to work on Depot for
months, but keep gettign sucked back to Gump. I just spent a week getting
Gump moved over to DOM. Something about the old way of doing things just
over whelemed me, and I couldn't move on.

That said, when I made this change. I felt liberated. I *finally* coded
Depot into Gump (a start) and am at the point of completing that. I'll write
more to the Gump list.

Also, Nick seems to be making good progress w/ AntWorks and Depot. Not as
much as he'd like (I think I need to help him w/ my parts after I'm done w/
Gump Depot), but progress. Folks are using it! [Nick is just busy/away for a
couple of weeks, or he'd tell you details.]

> Simple plan:
>
> 1 - get the site in a readable state
> 2 - use depot in Cocoon for showing what it can be used for
>      (added parallelly to current system)
> 3 - do a nightly release
> 4 - publicize it in the usual places (the erverside, blogs, java.net,
>      javalobby, freshmeat, etc)

Simpler plan : "usage". You taught me it, and I agree. As such, I agree --- 
(2) is key. I think the AntWorks team ought want to help here, and I know
Nick was interested before he got yanked away. Perhaps try to work with them
on this.

> The important thing for me now is point 2, and 1 will be a byproduct, as
> I learn to use it.
>
> Stay ready for my questions :-)

Awesome.

regards,

Adam

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