----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 5:23
PM
Subject: Re: All of derby_all
fails when environment corresponding derbyLocale_**.jar exists in
CLASSPATH
Hello.
>The others I don't know for sure but they're all
network server tests. Can you please post a diff for one of these so I get an
idea?
I uploaded one.
Seeing result , just message was in
Japanese.
>Would it be totally unacceptable to document we
expect the test harness to be run in en_US locale? Naka,
Well ...
Phenomena found this time was not so
serious.
So I think it is acceptable now, if notion of
system property to escape the problem was explained.
But on the other hand, I wonder more deep issue
about i18n may appear in some day.
So there exists some anxiety for limiting
test environment only to en_US .
//locale problem can be very serious problem in Asia
including Japan....
>If you run the tests with those properties you
mention, does that work?
>We'd probably need to pass them into the test
harness using -Djvmflags=... Or maybe even just force it from insite
RunSuite/RunTest.
At my site, I successed executing
derbynetclientsmats suite configuring "-Duser.language=en -Duser.country=US"
directly to VM.
The executing command was like next.
----
java -Drunwithjdk14=true
-DexcludeJCC=at-or-before:2.3 -Duser.language=en -Duser.country=US
org.apache.derbyTesting.functionTests.harness.RunSuite derbynetclientmats
I will try also derbyall this night.
Best regards.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005
3:33 PM
Subject: Re: All of derby_all
fails when environment corresponding derbyLocale_**.jar exists in
CLASSPATH
Hi,
Without a specific locale, Derby is supposed to default to
English...(the english locale messages are in derby.jar and thus always
available).
The test derbynet/sysinfo displays current locale, which I've also seen
fail for certain jvms, and it also fails on cygwin/jdk15 for the Norway
group (it displays No_no).
I've been wanting to look into somehow not printing out the current
locale...Would that be an acceptable change?
those 3 i18n tests are indeed troublesome - I've opened bug DERBY-244
for them, but I haven't come up with a good solution.
These .sql tests use ij. ij sents its output to the console, thus, the
info gets parsed through console.encoding and console's language setting.
Then, it gets saved to a file and thus gets parsed through file.encoding .
I've been meaning to test with a forced console.encoding depending on
platform - i.e. if
os.name substring
matches 'windows', force Cp1252, otherwise, force UTF-8. Would
that work?
Or is the whole point of testing ij to ensure the text comes out
correct in different locales/encodings? And how can we consistently check
that?
The others I don't know for sure but they're all network server tests.
Can you please post a diff for one of these so I get an idea?
Would it be
totally unacceptable to document we expect the test harness to be run in
en_US locale? Naka, would that be impossible for you? If you run the
tests with those properties you mention, does that work? We'd probably need
to pass them into the test harness using -Djvmflags=... Or maybe even just
force it from insite RunSuite/RunTest.
How do the folks in Norway run these?
All this also shows how terribly week the Japanese, and other locale
tests are.
Myrna
On 5/27/05, TomohitoNakayama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hello.
I
tried to execute derby_all again without derbyLocale_ja.jar and found
next
tests are failed.
derbyall/derbyall.fail:jdbcapi/parameterMapping.java
derbyall/derbyall.fail:i18n/urlLocale.sql
derbyall/derbyall.fail:i18n/messageLocale.sql
derbyall/derbyall.fail:i18n/iepnegativetests_ES.sql
derbyall/derbynetclientmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/NSinSameJVM.java
derbyall/derbynetclientmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/maxthreads.java
derbyall/derbynetclientmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/runtimeinfo.java
derbyall/derbynetclientmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/sysinfo.java
derbyall/derbynetclientmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/testProperties.java
derbyall/derbynetclientmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/testconnection.java
derbyall/derbynetclientmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/timeslice.java
derbyall/derbynetmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/NSinSameJVM.java
derbyall/derbynetmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/maxthreads.java
derbyall/derbynetmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/runtimeinfo.java
derbyall/derbynetmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/sysinfo.java
derbyall/derbynetmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/testProperties.java
derbyall/derbynetmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/testconnection.java
derbyall/derbynetmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/timeslice.java
Seeing
their **.diff, next contains difference caused by locale
problem.
derbyall/derbyall.fail:i18n/messageLocale.sql
derbyall/derbyall.fail:i18n/iepnegativetests_ES.sql
derbyall/derbynetclientmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/NSinSameJVM.java
derbyall/derbynetclientmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/maxthreads.java
derbyall/derbynetclientmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/runtimeinfo.java
derbyall/derbynetclientmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/sysinfo.java
derbyall/derbynetclientmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/testProperties.java
derbyall/derbynetclientmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/testconnection.java
derbyall/derbynetclientmats/derbynetmats.fail:derbynet/timeslice.java
Taking aside testing barrier, almost all of these locale
problem seems not
so harmful.
Generated messages was reasonable as
Japanese message.
But
derbyall/derbyall.fail:i18n/iepnegativetests_ES.sql, some characters are
corrupted.
For example...
47a47
> ERROR XIE0J: Un
delimitador no es v?lido o se ha utilizado m?s de una vez.
51
del
< ERROR XIE0J: Un delimitador no es v EnC:>225< lido o se
ha utilizado m
EnC:>225< s de una vez.
I think we can
avoid this testing problem in SunVM configuring sytem
property of
user.language/user.country/user.variant.
http://java.sun.com/j2se/corejava/intl/reference/faqs/index.html
:
Can I set the default locale from outside an application?
This
depends on the implementation of the Java platform you're using.
The
initial default locale is normally determined from the host
operating
system's locale. Versions 1.4 and higher of Sun's JREs let
you override this
by setting the user.language, user.country, and
user.variant system
properties from the command line. For example, to
select Locale("th", "TH",
"TH") as the initial default locale, you
would use:
java -Duser.language=th -Duser.country=TH -Duser.variant=TH
MainClass
Since not all runtime environments provide this feature, it
should only be
used for testing.
But there remains unclearness
around other vm .....
Best
regards.
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From: "TomohitoNakayama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
"Derby Development" <[email protected]
>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 5:03 AM
Subject: All of
derby_all fails when environment corresponding
derbyLocale_**.jar
exists in CLASSPATH
> Hello.
>
> I executed
derby_all with new configuration and found this phenomena.
>
> Adding derbyLocale_ja_JP.jar to classpath and ,
>
all of derby_all was failed because all result message was generated
in
> Japanese ....
>
> I didn't realized this , because
I had not included derbyLocale_ja_JP.jar
> to classpath before
....
>
> //Further more,from this time , environment variable
"LANG" was set to
> "en" as next ....
> //LANG="en"
>
//This configuration was done to avoid lang problem of "svn diff" around
> upgraded subversion, 1.2.0.
> //But it does not work for
derby.
> //I wonder how programs judges locale information
...
> //System property in JDK ....?
>
> I think this is
bug around test itself ......
>
> Best
regards.
>
>
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>
>
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>
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>
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>
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