Francois Orsini wrote:
Right this is where I got it from - I mentioned this as Derby is an Apache (2.0) based project - Hence, am curious as to what the trademark issue would be really for a tagline such "Open Source Database" (the one you mentioned) - is a separate license needed or not?

My concern was using the words "open source", but other email from Dan indicates that this shouldn't be an issue.

But I seriously wonder if we want to have a tagline that could require explanation -- and translation, as Dan also pointed out.

"Apache Derby" doesn't require any translation. "Open Source Database" is definitely English-centric.

-jean


On 1/24/06, *Jean T. Anderson* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Francois Orsini wrote:
     > Apache 2.0 is registered at OSI under:
     > http://www.opensource.org/licenses/apache2.0.php
     >
     > For what it's worth,

    For convenience, the OSI make copies of approved licenses available and
    Apache 2.0 is an approved license (see
    http://www.opensource.org/licenses/index.php). --I think that's what
    you're seeing.

    -jean

     >
     > --francois
     >
     > On 1/24/06, *Jean T. Anderson* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
     > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
     >
     >     Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
     >      > David W. Van Couvering wrote:
     >      >
     >      >>I'm not that attached to it.  Open Source Database is fine
    with me.
     >      >
     >      > Another option is to just drop the concept of the tag
    line, I'm
     >     not sure
     >      > why one is needed. I especially believe that the Derby
    logo should be
     >      > free of any trademark issues, so there is no requirement
    to have
     >      > permission from a third-party to have our own logo.
     >      >
     >      > Another issue with a tag line is that it is English
    centric. Does the
     >      > logo's tag line need to change in Japan, France etc?
     >
     >     Regarding "open source", there's OSI:
    http://opensource.org/trademarks/
     >
     >     And a google search for "open source trademark" yielded:
     >     http://www.spi-inc.org/news/1998/19981124
     >     http://www.opensource.org/pressreleases/osi-launch.php
     >
     >
     >     I prefer no tag line at all.
     >
     >       -jean
     >
     >



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