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Bernt M. Johnsen commented on DERBY-1387:
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Rick> I'm not sure I understand how this would work. Does this mean that 
administration would only be possible on databases which have already been 
brought up by normal application activity? 

Yes, in the current patch, that is the case.

Rick> What if I want to administer a database which has been taken down and has 
no connected users?

We will also need a knob for enabling of mangement of  databases that have not 
been booted or have been shut down.

Rick> Maybe we should only allow JMX management of Derby if authentication is 
turned on. If we did that, would we need an extra JMX-enabling knob?

Interesting thought. But I hope to avoid the following scenario (at least in 
the normal use-cases): Given that JMX authentication is turned on, the user has 
to 1) Authenticate to be allowed access to the JMX ssystem, 2) Authenticate to 
be allowed to manage the Derby system and 3) Authenticate again to be 
recognized as DB owner of a given database. In other words: Authenticate 3 
times before being allowed to de something with a specific database through JMX.

> Add JMX extensions to Derby
> ---------------------------
>
>                 Key: DERBY-1387
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1387
>             Project: Derby
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: Services
>            Reporter: Sanket Sharma
>            Assignee: Bernt M. Johnsen
>         Attachments: DERBY-1387-1.diff, DERBY-1387-1.stat, DERBY-1387-2.diff, 
> DERBY-1387-2.stat, DERBY-1387-3.diff, DERBY-1387-3.stat, DERBY-1387-4.diff, 
> DERBY-1387-4.stat, derbyjmx.patch, jmx.diff, jmx.stat, jmxFuncspec.html, 
> Requirements for JMX Updated.html, Requirements for JMX.html, Requirements 
> for JMX.zip
>
>
> This is a draft requirement specification for adding monitoring and 
> management extensions to Apache Derby using JMX. The requirements document 
> has been uploaded on JIRA as well as the Derby Wiki page at 
> http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/_Requirement_Specifications_for_Monitoring_%26_Management_Extensions_using_JMX
> Developers and Users are requested to please look at the document (feature 
> list in particular) and add their own rating to features by adding a coloumn 
> to the table.
> Comments are welcome.

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