On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Lily Wei <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Rick: > Will it be good to estimate the time it might need to build the plugin > and host them somewhere else? > > Thanks, > Lily > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 24, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Kim Haase <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It looks fine to me too. You might want to put a question mark at the end of >> the second question. >> >> Kim >> >> On 05/24/11 12:16 PM, Rick Hillegas wrote: >>> Here's a first draft of a message to derby-user about the future of the >>> Eclipse plugins. Please let me know how I can improve this. >>> Thanks, >>> -Rick >>> --------------------------------- >>> Dear Eclipse users, >>> For the past six years, Derby releases have included two Eclipse plugins: a >>> core plugin and a ui/doc plugin. The Derby developers have come to the >>> conclusion that these plugin artifacts fall outside the scope of our >>> charter, which explictly excludes IDE and GUI work: >>> http://db.apache.org/derby/derby_charter.html#Database+Technology For >>> future releases, we would like to get out of the business of producing >>> these plugins. We plan to build them for one more maintenance release, >>> 10.8.2: http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/DerbyTenEightTwoRelease After that, >>> we need to find some other way to support people who develop Derby-powered >>> applications with Eclipse. >>> We have two immediate questions for Eclipse users: >>> 1) Does anyone use these plugins anymore? >>> 2) Would someone in the user community be willing to build these plugins >>> for each Derby release and host them someplace else, perhaps at >>> http://marketplace.eclipse.org/ >
It's not building the plugins that's time consuming, but you have to get all setup. To produce the core plug-in, you have to run ant plugin. It runs buildjars, so you need to build derby first, so you need to set up jdk 142, 15, 16, junit...It takes about only a couple of seconds longer than it takes to build the jars. To produce the ui/doc plugins you need eclipse, you need to set it up with a 1.5 jvm, and you need to follow the instructions. These were originally written for version 3.0 of eclipse. They're now on 3.6 or so and there's a number of packages, not all of them support the plugin creation. I've tried to keep the instructions up to date as I was running into things, but it's one of those things where what seems obvious one time isn't so obvious next time you click through a bunch of options, and they change the lay-out of the options from one version to the next. It's taken me anywhere from 20 minutes to 4 hours to get it right.(more recently it's been shorter). I would suggest leaving this out, I think it's too much detail for a first email. (interested people can look for this email in the archives anyway). Myrna
