Fernanda Pizzorno wrote:
Hi Kristian,

Last week I tried to subscribe using a gmail account, and it was not as easy as you describe. When I sent the emails with no subject and no message body, I got them in return with the following message:

[...]
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Technical details of permanent failure:
PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 12): 552 spam score (5.5) exceeded threshold
[...]

The workaround was to write something in the subject and message body.

Ok, thanks for the info.

Just for the record, I also used a GMail account and did not see any of these problems.


--
Kristian


Regards,

Fernanda


Kristian Waagan wrote:
Mirit Naim wrote:
Well, just so you'd know, is is even more difficult to unsubscribe.

Hi Mirit,

Could you share some information about what made it difficult?
If anyone else had problems, feel free to document them here...

To get an idea of what this is all about, I decided to join the list with another account: 1) Went to http://db.apache.org/derby/derby_mail.html for instructions (basically just to get the mail addresses). 2) I sent an empty mail (no subject, no msg body) to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 3) Got confirmation request mail, just hit reply and then send.
 4) Got final confirmation that I was subscribed.
5) Sent an empty mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to unsubscribe.
 6) Got confirmation request mail regarding my wish to unsubscribe.
 7) Hit reply and send.
 8) Got final confirmation that I was unsubscribed.

The eight steps above took at most 5 minutes (including writing this mail). In my experience, it was pretty quick and painless.

For those who had problems, which step(s) failed to complete/work?



regards,


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