I've been using Derby for several years as the main database for one of my
production projects, and I must say it has always proven to be reliable.

I fully understand the situation described by Rick. Without active
developers and with bugs remaining open, it's difficult to maintain the
project. I hope retirement can be avoided, but I'm realistic: without a
community ready to contribute concretely, it doesn't make much sense to
continue.

I hope the downloads will remain available at least on Maven Central. I
will continue to use Derby - what's there works perfectly for my needs. In
any case, I would like to thank Rick, Bryan, and all the contributors for
the excellent work done over these years.

- fed


On Mon, 22 Sept 2025 at 19:26, Rick Hillegas <[email protected]>
wrote:

> It has been almost two years since the Derby sub-project published a new
> version. I myself have no interest in managing another Derby release.
> Bryan is the only other active Derby committer. Bugs are reported
> occasionally but they are never fixed. Mailing-list activity consists
> almost entirely of spam rejects. No-one has volunteered to refresh the
> Derby website with the new Apache logo.
>
> I think that the time has come to retire Derby. As I understand it, this
> means putting Derby into a read-only state:
>
> o The Derby repository would become read-only.
>
> o Distributions would be removed from the Download tab.
>
> o The developer and user lists would be closed down. Mailing list
> archives would still be browsable.
>
> o A prominent banner would be added to the Derby website landing page,
> stating that Derby was now retired and read-only.
>
> o The Derby website, JIRA, and wiki would be placed in read-only mode.
>
> Before calling a retirement vote, I would like to give the developer and
> user communities an opportunity to discuss this change.
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
> -Rick
>
>
>
>

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