Hi,

I have made some mockup to show how different shadows look alike:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Docshadows.png
Which looks best?

With startup style shadow:
http://ubuntuone.com/p/S53/

Hillar



2011/3/4 Daniel Merker <daniel.mer...@wayne.edu>

> Hi,
>
> Just a thought. Wouldn't it make more sense to have the background be the
> primary color of that application. For example, the Writer would have a blue
> tinted background with a shadow (I like the shadow on all sides), and
> Impress would have an organge tinted background with the same shadow around
> the slide. This should help tie in the color theme and help build on a
> general motif.
>
> -Daniel Merker
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sébastien Le Ray [mailto:sebast...@orniz.org]
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 4:01 PM
> To: design@libreoffice.org
> Cc: jaronba...@gmail.com; Andrew
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 -
> Improve default page layout
>
> Le Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:44:21 -0500,
> Jaron Kuppers <jaronba...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I like both ideas but lean towards Andrews suggestion.
> >
> > I would like to instead propose a different approach but perhaps from
> > a coding perspective it would not be an "easy hack."  There was
> > discussion over the years on the OOo list about changing the
> > background from the dull gray to something more upbeat.  Perhaps the
> > 'shadow' could be integrated into a new customization feature that
> > allows the user to change the background and the shadow.
> > Unfortunately, I can't recall how difficult this is... (I seem to
> > recall some large problem in the code that made this difficult, but it
> > may have been an issue).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jaron
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Andrew <rugby...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 04/03/11 07:42, Sébastien Le Ray wrote:
> > > > Le Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:35:11 +0100, Christoph Noack
> > > > <christ...@dogmatux.com> a écrit :
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Sébastien, hi all!
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > >> Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 14:16 +0100 schrieb Sébastien Le
> > > >> Ray:
> > > >>> Le Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:59:19 +0000, Michael Meeks
> > > >>> <michael.me...@novell.com> a écrit :
> > > >>>
> > > > [...]
> > > >>
> > > >> Although I didn't see it yet, thanks for your work - I'm really
> > > >> looking forward.
> > > >
> > > > You can find a screenshot on
> > > > http://misc.orniz.org/libreoffice/lo-shadow.png book mode is also
> > > > handled nicely...
> > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> However, I'd like to provide some pointers to the Notes stuff -
> > > >> it's really worth spending some time digging through some of the
> > > >> descriptions (in my point-of-view). I think this is better than
> > > >> pre-process most of the stuff, since I'm unaware of your likings
> > > >> :-)
> > > >>
> > > >> The notes main wiki page (Notes2 because of the CWS that time):
> > > >> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2
> > > >>
> > > >> Here are the links to the detailed designs that had (sometimes)
> > > >> to be adapted due to technical constraints nobody spent the time
> > > >> for:
> > > >> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2#Status_and_Propos
> > > >> als
> > > >>
> > > >> And once finished with the default stuff, we have lots of further
> > > >> ideas: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2_OtherIdeas
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Personally, I've already spend over one year with the Notes
> > > >> project being the UX representative, so I'd like to work with you
> > > >> on that - if you like :-)
> > > >
> > > > I'll be pleased to :) It'd be nice to have a "UI tasks" on
> > > > libreoffice wiki presenting all tasks that are ready on a Design
> > > > point of view but that have not yet been implemented.
> > > > There is a lot of stuff on the Note2 wiki page, could you give
> > > > priorities on various items?
> > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> If you are generally interested in working on Usability / Visual
> > > >> Design topics (of course, from the developer's point-of-view -
> > > >> and we really need some understanding and support here), feel
> > > >> invited to subscribe to the Design Team mailing list - some more
> > > >> information can be found here:
> > > >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design
> > > >
> > > > Subscribed yesterday :-)
> > > > It seems that you've been busy with more "marketting" stuff that
> > > > UI design lately to cover the launch of LO, FOSDEM and funraising
> > > >
> > > > Waiting for you priorities & mockups on notes work :-)
> > > >
> > > > Sébastien
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi All and Sebastien :)
> > >
> > > Regarding that patch, I think that what we have in that screenshot
> > > is a definite improvement, but I feel we could do better, and
> > > hopefully without a lot more work.
> > >
> > > If you look at the mockup I attached to the bug report, I feel this
> > > looks a lot more modern and professional.
> > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=39920
>
> Pretty interesting... I first implemented the "4 borders" shadow but every
> people I show it said "it's strange, the shadow should be only under two
> borders".
>
> > >
> > > I feel if instead of having that shadow aligned to the bottom left,
> > > instead it is centred on the page, and we have a slightly larger
> > > blur radius we can make it look a lot better.
> > >
> > > Is this just me, or do other think this as well?
> > >
>
> Now that the code is present, we can use almost any image. Shadow is
> divided in 4 parts: top right, right, bottom right,  bottom, bottom left. If
> you can provide other images I could integrate them (those ones where more
> "proof of concept" ones.
>
>
> > > --
> > > Andrew
>
>
> Regards
>
> Sebastien
>
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