Hi Scott! Wow, there is quite some activity on this list at the moment. Cool! :-)
Am Mittwoch, den 27.04.2011, 15:45 -0600 schrieb Scott Pledger: > Christoph, > > Yes that is exactly what I had been thinking!! And sure, I'd be glad to > help however I can! That'll be great ... so may I kindly ask you for something? To me, the most important thing is to have a look at the WWN list in the wiki. I've spend so much time with this list, that I'm unsure if every idea can be understood ... especially since I'm usually not the author of these thoughts :-) So, is there something missing - is there something you won't agree on at all? The next step would be to think about how we can collect (e.g. thinking of the marketing questions) the information - may it be polls, surveys ... within the Design team ... with other teams ... with end-users (who don't even know that we exist). Well, one can spend hours by replying to mails ... and its already time to go to bed. So a "good night" to everybody :-) Cheers, Christoph > Yours Truly, > Scott R. Pledger > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 15:24, Christoph Noack <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Hi Scott! > > > > You asked a tough question ... something we struggled quite some time > > within OpenOffice.org. So the question is not _if_ we apply platform > > specific elements ... the question is rather what we can share accross > > all platforms, because there is no reference implementation. > > > > Some examples: > > * Toolbar color-picker > > * New "Slide layout" drop-downs > > * Slide sorter in Impress > > * Print dialog (on some platforms, there is no reference > > implementation) > > > > To me, this should be something that should be agreed on ... with the > > development and marketing to define a "degree of freedom". > > > > It's already part of the WhatWeNeed list, I've mentioned earlier ... > > Collect, clarify and document fundamental questions [...]: > > "Platform specific" (respect the platform interaction > > guidelines ... e.g. like Mozilla Firefox) vs. "Platform > > independence" (work the same way on any platform ... e.g. like > > web sites) > > > > Is this what you had in mind? Would you be interested in driving this > > effort (the item "Clarify Marketing Questions")? > > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off/WhatWeNeed#Knowledge_and_Requirements > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 27.04.2011, 10:49 -0600 schrieb Scott Pledger: > > > My only concern when asking this question is the implementation of any > > kind > > > of a graphical look and feel - layouts would be the same across > > platforms, > > > but should the look and feel (things such as the coloring/graphics of the > > > application) apply the user's system theme or whether the coloring and > > > graphical feel of LibreOffice should be the same across all platforms in > > > addition to the layout or if the layout should merely implement the > > user's > > > native look and allow the system to apply whatever its theme is. > > > > Just one addition - I usually refer to "look" as the visual style, and > > "feel" as the behavior which also includes the workflows of the > > software. > > > > > Yours Truly, > > > Scott R. Pledger > > > > By the way, although we don't get any statistical evidence for users, I > > really like these small surveys ... thanks! > > > > Cheers, > > Christoph > > > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 06:53, Daniel Merker <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > 2011/4/26 Scott Pledger <[email protected]>: > > > > > Purely out of curiosity, how many people here prefer that the user's > > > > > default environment theme (GTK, Qt, etc.) be applied to LibreOffice > > > > > versus how many would rather see LibreOffice get its own look > > > > > independent of the desktop environment? > > > > > > > > >From a Core UI stance, LibO should have a consistent look across all > > > > platforms; for example, where the toolbar is, what is under each menu, > > how > > > > use cases are performed. The outer shell should conform to the standard > > of > > > > the platform; for example, where the max/min/close buttons are, what > > order > > > > those buttons should appear. IMHO, when you try to please everyone with > > > > different versions, in this case based on platforms, of a UI, you tend > > to > > > > please no one.... > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
