Can you direct me to the specifications that were set for the replacement UI engine?? I'm curious to see what it entailed... And sorry if I stepped on any toes with my other post - its an idea I've had basically since high school and so I was just trying to get some input on it! :)
Yours Truly, Scott R. Pledger On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 13:49, Kohei Yoshida <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 18:11 +0200, Christoph Noack wrote: > > Hi Kohei, hi Scott! > > > > Kohei, thanks for the helpful information here ... great that you're > > listening here (especially since I know your workload...)! > > No problem. I decided to jump in because we (the developers) have been > discussing this matter to death. So, this is not just a concern for the > UI designers alone. > > > Am Freitag, den 29.04.2011, 10:25 -0400 schrieb Kohei Yoshida: > > > On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 23:15 -0600, Scott Pledger wrote: > > > > Is there any chance of implementing any kind of an XML-based UI > template? > > > > Something similar to XUL may be a good place to start... > > > > > > We don't have any concrete vision of what the VCL replacement should > > > look like, but making UI definition files XML-based is surely a sane > > > approach. In fact, when we attempted to replace it at one point, we > did > > > use an XML-based UI definition format. Some of these files are still > > > around in the code base though we are on their way out. > > > > > > So, yeah, XML-based UI definition format is very likely. > > > > As far as I know, there have been several attempts to solve this issue. > > For example, at the OOoCon 2010 I attended a presentation related to XML > > based UI declaration ... > > > > http://www.ooocon.org/index.php/ooocon/2010/paper/view/199 > > (see also the presentation download) > > > > Sun/Oracle also thought about that ... during my visit in Hamburg early > > 2010, we discussed how e.g. toolpanes might ideally behave - some > > improvements about what we have today. Here, "ideally" mainly refers to > > its technical behavior to detach/attach them anywhere. In this > > discussion, XML based UI stuff was mentioned as well. Here is the blog > > post - no technical relevance, but maybe interesting: > > > http://uxopenofficeorg.blogspot.com/2010/01/ux-meeting-in-hamburg-day-two.html > > Thanks for the info. FYI we (the Go-OO team) had worked on introducing > the new UI layout engine as well. Though that attempt didn't really > materialize, we are very much interested in giving it another go. So > this is very important to all of us, and many of us have been scratching > our heads trying to figure out what best to do to bring it forward. > > We've looked through pretty much all existing frameworks but none of > them fit our need without making major compromise somewhere. And to be > honest replacing one cross-platform framework (VCL) with another one may > not solve the issue, no matter how good some people believe the > replacement is. > > Kohei > > -- > Kohei Yoshida, LibreOffice hacker, Calc > <[email protected]> > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
