> That's absolutely great - and highly appreciated. But before we start,
> I'd like to know whether you are aware of two activities in the past
> that tried to address this issue. First, there has been a discussion on
> the developers list some months ago. Second, there has been an active
> discussion on the German mailing list some weeks ago (but I don't know
> the final outcome).
>
Hi,

I would like to emphasize that I'm a developer with little insight with regard 
to useability. It's a handicap shared by many developers and I came to 
acknowledge it over the years.
> My questions are related to the fact, that I already provided lots of
> detailed "usability feedback" within these threads - I assume that would
> be helpful for your work as well. For example:
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-March/009440.html
>
Your mail was my first inspiration when I picked up where Daniel Neel left, 
back in february ( 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-February/008101.html ). 
I'm now trying to mix your vision with the one provided by Rainer Bielefeld and 
Michael Meeks ( which are listed with yours at 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Submission_Assistant#Specifications ).

It would greatly help if I had a bullet list of what should be implemented ( a 
proper specification is probably overkill, but details would be appreciated ). 
If there is a consensus on the priorities, it would help my technical work a 
great deal. I understand, however, that such research takes time and that you 
are all very busy. This is the reason why I went for a minimal implementation 
with what I believed to be the parts everyone agrees on.
> There are currently several things that make me ask who are the target
> users for this bug report form? And what is the reason for having such a
> form - improve the quality of bug reports, make it quicker to report
> them, make it easier for less experienced users, make it more visible to
> users that we care about such issues?
My focus is to make it easier for someone who reports a bug for the second time 
and to improve the quality of the bug report by making sure the essential 
fields are filled in. The first time someone reports a bug, (s)he will need to 
register a bugzilla account which is difficult and there is no way around it.
> If we consider "normal users", then e.g. the component selection is
> still very difficult to understand. 
Michael Meeks has a proposal regarding this aspect ( in 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/attachments/20110906/9cc0ddfe/attachment-0001.odt
 ). If I had the required graphical elements, I could integrate them into the 
page. Do you know where I could find an image/icon for each components listed 
at 
https://bugassistant.libreoffice.org/query.cgi?format=advanced&product=LibreOffice
 ?
> Or, asking them to create a bugzilla
> account (within this complex system) may reduce the need for a "simple"
> bug report assistant - those people who survive creating an bugzilla
> account are pre-filtered, so that a normal bug report form will work for
> them too (at least the "hide advanced fields" version).
>
I agree that creating a bugzilla account is a major problem. I think nobody 
disputes this. I assumed the bug assistant was useful anyway because it was 
listed as a task. If it turns out to be redundant, I would appreciate to know 
as soon as possible ;-) I will keep going anyway, but I must confess that I'm 
worried now.

Cheers


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