Does a UI expert says what he thinks ? Because actually, it seems it should be disabled (majority seems to think this)
Kévin 2011/10/14 Glenn de Groot <[email protected]> > > I am using an Asus 10 inch netbook, and disabling the rulers saves a lot of > space.I can see more of my document without rulers, but disabling looks > better too, which is the reason I turn off rulers on the desktop too. > -Glenn > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Hide ruler by default? > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:43:32 -0400 > > > > Hi all, > > > > On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 22:23 +0200, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote: > > > > > Hy > > > > > > Personnaly, I always used Rulers (On word 2003, OOo, SYmphony or LibO), > to > > > place horizontally text or headers/footers. But I think it's not the > case of > > > the majority . > > > > I sometimes use the top ruler to set tab type, tab positioning, and > > indent positioning in Writer. I do not think the default on/off is that > > critical if switching the behavior is easy. Now, I can click Rulers > > under View to turn on/off. > > > > We could be hinting a broader issue, should some of the default > > behaviors be confirmed/set at install or first use? If so, which ones > > should be included? Could there be recommend selections based on the > > type of hardware environment - desktop with big screen, desktop with > > small screen, laptop, etc.? > > > > > > > Then, if rulers have to be kept, I think we should try to find a way to > have > > > them more discrete, because they are not very sexy, they take a big > place > > > and are not used a lot. It should really be investigated what do you > think ? > > > > Probably not used often, but the amount of space they consume is > > relative to the screen size. On some laptops vertical real estate is > > lacking but on a desktop with a large monitor it may be an ascetic issue > > more than anything else. I could understand if someone wanted different > > defaults on different computers. > > > > > > > > Kévin > > > > > > PS : Scuse, I've speak a horrible English, I know it. > > > > > > 2011/10/13 Andrew Pullins <[email protected]> > > > > > > > I never use the rulers, see no need for them in a word processor, or > in > > > > a presentation. I can not speak for Mirek now but on his blog he > talks > > > > about > > > > the "Citrus UI" hiding them by default. but I can say that in his UI > mock > > > > ups there are no rulers. here is a link to his blog where he talks > about it > > > > http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/citrus-tabs/ > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:41 AM, RGB ES <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > 2011/10/13 Glenn de Groot <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello people, > > > > > > yesterday I had a pretty good idea IMHO.I would like to see the > ruler > > > > > > hidden by default in Libre Office 3.5.I know nobody who uses the > ruler > > > > > (on > > > > > > any office application), and I don´t use it either.Microsoft > Office, > > > > > Google > > > > > > Docs and I believe there are others, hide the ruler by > default.Try it, > > > > go > > > > > to > > > > > > View and deselect the ruler, it makes Libre Office a lot > simpler.People > > > > > who > > > > > > do need the ruler probably know where to find it. > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > -Glenn de Groot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rulers are useful for direct formatting, I think. Because I never > use > > > > > direct > > > > > formatting I always turn off rulers... ;) > > > > > There was a discussion (or more precisely, "an attempt to start a > > > > > discussion") about default values on LibO a couple of months ago. > Maybe > > > > we > > > > > need to restart it. > > > > > Cheers > > > > > Ricardo > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > [email protected] > > > > > Problems? > > > > > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > > > > Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot > be > > > > > deleted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > [email protected] > > > > Problems? > > > > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > > > Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot > be > > > > deleted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jay Lozier > > [email protected] > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
