Hullllloooooooooo again TEAM!
Great, constructive feedback all around people! ;
- Astron: thank you millions for your support and for being open to
changes to your modified logo. Also, well-spotted with the footer
segmented-green-border. It was also the one element that I was most
displeased with before submitting, but it was 2:00am and I grew
tired+lazy and submitted anyway. Self-imposed deadlines: a Designer's
best friend and worst enemy (other than clients! ... ha, I joke)
I think what you suggest would indeed work better.
- Andrew: thanks for the thumbs-up. Gradients are a UI's saviour y'know.
- Christoph: Boss, I couldn't agree more, action-items are very much
required. And IMAGES! which is our greatest downfall so far. But as I
mentioned, I assumed that content-discussions may have already taken
place and I wasn't about to radically contradict the outcomes. While I
have opinions of what could be on that site, I will leave the
content-discussion/decisions to people more capable such as yourself and
our Usability-brethren (but I will add some suggestions below rather
than being cryptic). Having said that, I don't think we need to get the
contents perfect before the Design can be fixed. I personally would love
to see some more iterative implementation because I have come to realise
that sometimes we (the Design Team) aim for perfection and action never
occurs as a result of our hesitation. But the Extensions site is LIVE.
Any immediate improvement that can be implemented NOW, should not be
suspended because of a perfect improvement that might happen LATER.
But... (and it gives me more pride than you can imagine to say this, now
that we have formalised leadership that we have been craving for EVER)
it IS your call =)
- Andreas: attention is a funny thing in Graphic Design, when trying to
balance "size" with "empty-space" you have to remember that there is an
inverse-bell-curve, where too much or too little empty space /attracts/
attention and a "balanced" compromise makes people feel comfortable, but
uninterested. For the logo I think we should go with this "boring"
balance because like you say, the logo isn't the major player on that
page, the Navigation is. But interesting to note in that principle, is
that something SMALL, when surrounded by luxuriant empty space, catches
attention. While I've never formalised that in any discussion on-list so
far, I think that is the method LibO should employ in its branding
language. It should become our mantra. Empty space (not necessarily
/white/, but /negative/) is our friend.
...
Personally, if you don't mind my opinion, I would actually change the
landing page quite a bit. An explanation IS essential, but if I were to
land on an exentsions site, the MOST Important thing I'd like to see is
a big fat search box or categorised index. Maybe some of the best-rated
/ most-popular / newest-addition extensions. I would like to see a
prominent "add an extension" and information/interview with Extension
developers.
And on a personal note, all of this constant emphasis on donation is
really starting to change my impression of LibO. A LOT! We went from a
philosophy-driven endeavour which emphasised its focus on freedom (both
speech AND expense) which rarely requested money.... to a seemingly
money-hungry enterprise that wants more donations - more donations -
MORE DONATIONS!
I know donations are our lifeblood, so don't get me wrong, but I think
we should be doing this in a much more elegant way than banner-ads /
home-page-hugging mentions of donations and never-ending mentions of
money. Firefox does quite well by emphasising it's "community of
volunteers" which makes you feel like supporting them, rather than
all-consuming "donate NOW" instructions. Again, just my humble, and
always controversial, opinions and nothing more.
Yet another long Email. I'll try and do more /Designing/ and less
/writing/ with my remaining time.
And sorry for top-posting.
-Nik
On 11.10.23 10:35, Christoph Noack wrote:
Hi all,
it is already 1:30 am, so wildly jumping into the discussion ... :-)
Am Sonntag, den 23.10.2011, 00:02 +0200 schrieb Astron:
Hi everybody,
as the person who created the original version of sharp-triangled
Extensions& Templates logo (ie [1]): I absolutely second Nik's
request. If you need more of an eyecatcher, just make the entire image
(a little) larger. The current logo looks butchered badly (and it is,
given that I and later you modified Nik's good original logo).
I also second Nik's request for several reasons. Furthermore, I'd like
to add that the current logo needs an enormous amount of space that eats
away space for the actual content of the page. I would even suggest to
make the pages close to the default LibreOffice site, so that users feel
at home (whilst knowing where to look for the logo).
By the way, I know that you explained to me that its not possible to
combine the Extensions and the Templates page ... so an idea for the
future. The "X" could also be used for "LibreOffice E*x*tras" covering
both topics.
Overall, though, the focus shouldn't be on the logo too much, but
rather on the content: a grid of newly-uploaded/curated/rave-reviewed
extensions and only two lines of text would be great.
By the way, your (Nik's) homepage proposal looks good apart from the
fact that there's still no action on the site (see above).
+1
The question to me is, what arethe most important tasks on the website?
I guess ...
1. Getting extensions / templates ... so users should get an
initial idea (so showing e.g. the most recent or best rated
items -> from here, people should be able to get further
collections)
2. Getting information about LibreOffice (to know that this is an
official page, to get information about "us" if the user
approaches the page by accident)
3. Upload their own content (this needs refinement as well ...)
Our interest might also be to: ask for donations.
Personally, I consider this a starting point for further "User oriented"
changes.
By the way, there are many categories to chose from (on the Templates
page). It might be helpful if we could consider the survey results what
people do with LibreOffice / OOo to make finding items easier. Does that
sound interesting?
[...]
Cheers,
Christoph
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