2012/2/20 Sveinn í Felli <[email protected]> > Þann mán 20.feb 2012 20:00, skrifaði Christoph Noack: > ----------- > > Am Mittwoch, den 15.02.2012, 14:08 +0100 schrieb Stefan Knorr (Astron): >> > ----------- > >> On 15 February 2012 13:50, Charles-H.Schulz >>> <charles.schulz@**documentfoundation.org<[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> - Do we want a reference set of icons? >>>> >>> >>> Mostly, we want to have a well-maintained set of icons. >>> >> >> Weither it is called "reference set", or "well-maintained set", I >> strongly agree to the general idea here. >> >> Currently, >>> none of the themes meet that definition, as all of them lack icons for >>> certain actions. That's one of the reasons why I am not exactly 100% >>> behind creating a completely new icon set – I think, fixing Tango >>> should go first. Why? Tango may not be everyone's favourite theme >>> (neither are monochrome icons, ... I digress), but >>> a) it has an established visual style >>> b) it's not so hard to find free/license-compliant Tango icons on the >>> internet >>> c) the theme already exists and only needs extending and updating. >>> Nevertheless, if people come up with a new, substantial set of quality >>> icons, I'll do my best to get it into LibO. >>> >> >> Well, I'd like to add two additional thoughts here: >> * If we stick with Tango, we might loose some people interested in >> icon design, since working on something established is usually >> less desired than creating something new. But, since creating >> something new (a huge set in a good quality) is an enormous >> task, going for Tango seems indeed better. >> * I know from talks with Stella (the designer of the e.g. Galaxy >> icon set for OpenOffice.org) that she needed lots (!) of time to >> cope with the enormous number of icons and thus "unique" >> metaphors. So working on an existing set will help us to create >> a basis for a new set. >> >> ------------------- > > >> However, since we discuss this issue from time to time, wouldn't it be >> helpful to document a decision by the Design Team? But, of course, this >> needs some consensus ... basically, it is a sub-decision about the >> general visual design of LibO. Opinions, anyone? >> > > Some (humble) feedback: > > I think a good first step would be to clearly document all the icons > needed in LibreOffice, naming conventions and other criteria (size, uses, > fileformat, etc...) Maybe the result could be a sort of icon-map table > (similar to a character map) for LibreOffice. Maybe this exists already but > I haven't found it yet. There's some useful info on <https://wiki.** > documentfoundation.org/Design/**Whiteboards/LibreOffice_**Initial_Icons<https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons> > >. > I agree, maybe we should use a wikipage for that (Something like that http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/NeededIcons - Scuse me I don't have time to make more today but it's a starting point)
> > Working on a couple of existing icon sets (Tango + Oxygen?) should not be > that difficult if there are good design guidelines for each and if > interested people could easily see which icons are missing. > > Then there might be work on new sets; personally I would never use a > monochrome set (even with some integrated color coding) - but I admire > Mirek's design in its simplicity and I think it will appeal to many people. > Guess my visual detectors are spoiled with colors and forms ;-) > I'm sure we should officially maintain one icon theme (and its variant as High Contrast) not more. But to choose whether to maintain a monochrome (as Mirek Proposal) or colorful one, we should list positives and negatives for each case, UX speaking (not thinking "It is beautiful / It's not beautiful" : Everyone will have a different opinion on this), just thinking : "How can it help users of LibO ?" And list this on the Wiki. > > So, I really think there should be choice by default, e.g. one darkish > stylish theme, an institutional one and a cheering colorful one. For > example. > The institutional and Darkish ones, as they are monochrome, can be considered as One icon set to design I suppose, just changing their colour then... Maybe changing color is possible within the software (having a basic icon, and software change it's color automatically ?) The colorful one can stay the Tango one in my way (even if I prefer Human) And we mustn't forget the High Contrast one > Finally; even though the compilation/creation of icon themes for > LibreOffice should be coordinated at LO/TDF, shouldn't we explore the > possibility of doing the actual design in cooperation with other > icon-design sites, especially for the existing themes ? > > Just thoughts. > > Best regards, > Sveinn í Felli > > Kévin > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > design+help@global.**libreoffice.org<design%[email protected]> > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** > unsubscribe/<http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/> > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** > Netiquette <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> > List archive: > http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/design/<http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/> > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
