Hi Regina,

thanks a lot for your reply. Of course, Writer and Calc are just examples for 
having the chart data included or not. However, Jay and me wonder how to get 
internal data in Calc working. I guess your are talking from a programmer POV 
and the data is always stored with the chart. So Calc is the exception.

About the sidebar the idea was to have access to chart data not the OLE 
object. But I'm not sure if this direct access really needs to be available. 
On the other hand the properties sidebar section that we have right now would 
be a nice means to tweak chart content instead of the multitude of dialogs. 
Just to start with one of them ;-).

Cheers,
Heiko.

On Sunday 05 April 2015, 01:36:33 Regina Henschel wrote:
> Hi Jay,
> 
> Jay Philips schrieb:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > Last friday we had a design session where we began working on reworking
> > how inserting a chart will be implemented. The session was productive
> > but unfortunately we (Heiko, Steve, and I) werent able to complete it
> > and so this friday we hope to do so.
> > 
> > It would be nice for individuals with knowledge of the chart wizard to
> > provide their feedback in the google doc and it would be highly
> > appreciate if you could also join us in the next session.
> > 
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z1IBeqKnscoODgFDNm81iDnwkzxce92sEsYuMg
> > gnTDQ/edit?usp=sharing
> The distinction between "chart in Writer" and "chart in Calc" is not
> accurate. Instead, the point is, whether the chart has its own data or
> whether data is linked to a table. You can have a chart with its own
> data in Calc and a chart with data linked to a table in Writer.
> 
> It is not so easy to get chart properties into the sidebar, because the
> chart module has no sidebar yet. Do not forget, that a chart is a
> distinct office document and is inserted into the other documents as
> OLE. So you have to distinguish between the properties as OLE object and
> the internal properties of the chart.
> 
> Kind regards
> Regina


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