Hello world, I started this discussion, so it's about time I also contribute something to it:
> To start the discussion I prepared a pad with the basics (needs some work > though) and two alternative workflows/designs with mockups. Please comment > the hell out of these ideas (either comment via speech bubble icon or just > add text). Perhaps it's good to have a hangout too... The main issue I have with status quo is this duality between "File -> Printer settings" and "File -> Print -> $some_printer -> Properties". In other words, settings of the printer and document/page-specific settings that can be (and often are) entirely different. An equivalent of "File -> Printer settings" doesn't seem to exist in MSO, for example (or it does but I'm not so very good at searching). When I asked on IRC why it exists in LibO, I was only told that it sets up some stuff that can't be set up elsewhere *grin* Then, things like tdf#92676 (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92676) happen -- user goes to printer settings, sets something up, saves and thinks this is how his document's going to be printed, but it ain't the case, because the document/page settings will be used instead. There's of course this "use only paper * from printer preferences" checkbox that makes it possible to override document settings with printer settings, but how many users know about it? Giving it a more prominent place on title page like in Heiko's mockup is a step in the right direction, but ideally, it should be possible to toggle it also in printer settings ('use those settings when printing all documents' or sth along that line). In another example, when the document settings are used (i.e. not overriden by printer settings), user goes to "File -> Print -> $some_printer -> Properties", changes something e.g. paper size, page orientation and thinks this is what is going to be printed, but again, it ain't the case ... So I've disabled those controls (paper size and orientation) in 5.0 and newer, but I'm not so sure it was the right thing to do ... ... and what would be the right thing to do instead? Just take user's settings and override document settings with those, even if it means the document will come out cropped/distorted (due to paper size too small, wrong paper orientation etc.) ? I guess this is what MSO does, but didn't really test .... -- Katarina Behrens Softwareentwicklerin LibreOffice ––– CIB software GmbH Geschäftsstelle Hamburg Flachsland 10 22083 Hamburg ––– T +49 (40) / 28 48 42 -235 F +49 (40) / 28 48 42 -100 [email protected] www.cib.de ––– Sitz: München Registergericht München, HRB 123286 Geschäftsführer: Dipl.-Ing. Ulrich Brandner -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
