The visual way the content is displayed should not be controversial. It only gets complicated if the developers/designers start making editorial-decisions about *what information* should be inside the infobox (without tons of input from the editors). Ie. * Changing the look would be relatively easy. (Making the sections/items/images/captions clearer, changing the box design including header-background-color, etc)
* Changing the method for entering infobox-content might be complicated, depending on how much editors have to learn new workflows, or overhaul millions of existing pages. But it should be achievable, because there's a wide agreement that having ~100 lines of template code at the top of articles is not ideal. (We could change this fairly easily, e.g. with subpage transclusion but...: * Changing where the infomation is stored is very complicated, because anything that separates content from the central page that the editors are watchlisting, suddenly becomes a lot more susceptible to vandalism/inaccuracy, due to lack of scrutiny. There is an option in Special:preferences to "Show Wikidata edits in your watchlist" - but I find using this tends to be a bit annoying, because of the uninformative edit-summaries and lack of navpopups support for diff-links (so I have visit every change, to see what it did). * Changing what information is included in an article/infobox, should be left in the hands of the editors. (With discussion encouraged, and change being possible; but it would need to be a very well-researched and cross-wiki discussion) I would suggest that as a first step: someone needs to do a deep-dive into exactly how many items there are in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16 vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada 's (infobox) etc: for a handful of topics, and language-projects. (exhaustion disclaimer. Jet-lagged and not thinking clearly) On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote: > Infoboxes cause a huge problem on mobile and I've been asking us to be > guinea pigs for this sort of thing. > > I would like mobile to scrub infoboxes and then generate them in a > more appropriate place in the UI using Wikidata. I was told this would > be controversial though... > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Amir E. Aharoni > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just an idea inspired by Brandon's Wikimania talk and some discussions at > > Wikidata-L: We can completely remove infobox templates. More precisely, > the > > templates may stay, but the code that places them in the article can be > > removed. > > > > Let me explain: Wikidata makes it possible to write an infobox without > any > > parameters - just {{Infobox settlement}} without any |, = and all that. > > Wikidata even has a property called "infobox's main topic", a kind of > > "meta-property" that can automatically identify which infobox does the > > article need, so that you can simply say something like {{Infobox}}. > This is > > implemented in the Russian Wikipedia using > > https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Universal_infocard , which is used > on > > hundreds of articles there. So it hasn't replaced the usual templates > yet, > > but the theoretical possibility is there. > > > > Thus, the only thing left to the editor's discretion is where to place > the > > infobox. > > > > This, however, can be handled by Winter. Winter puts infobox-like > > information on the info rail*, and if we plan to be bold enough to take > it > > completely out of the article's prose flow, why not just remove it from > the > > article completely? If an article has an appropriate infobox template, > it is > > shown on the info rail, and that is it. (The Community will then ask for > the > > __NOINFOBOX__ magic word, but that's a minor thing.) > > > > Thoughts? > > > > * That's how I call the "right rail" until there is consensus on a better > > name. See > > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/design/2014-August/001897.html > > > > -- > > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > > “We're living in pieces, > > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Design mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design > > > > > > -- > Jon Robson > * http://jonrobson.me.uk > * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson > * @rakugojon > > _______________________________________________ > Design mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design >
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