Yes, I agree completely, we need to do a lot of cleanup to what we have before any major public release, and we also need a logical place to corral things before a release that we can evaluate everything in tandem. We can discuss whether this is a beta feature or a test server.
*Jared Zimmerman * \\ Director of User Experience \\ Wikimedia Foundation M +1 415 609 4043 \\ @jaredzimmerman <http://loo.ms/g0> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Steven Walling <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Jared Zimmerman < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Steven, from the very beginning of Beta Features we acknowledged their >> would be Beta Features that were only for experimenting and exploring, that >> they wouldn't graduate. So this isn't a concern of mine. I think the only >> way we'll be able to get a good solid review of the controls, both >> internally and from users is to package it up as a beta feature and let >> people use the real production site with all the new controls in place. >> Matt's test instance is great but won't serve the same purpose. > > > Having a new feature we want to try and test but then decide not graduate > is one thing. Nearby for Desktop was a good example of this. But releasing > a beta feature we definitely never intend to graduate is just silly and a > waste of resources. We want everything to look and feel consistent, > hopefully with the nascent mediawiki.ui style as the standard. We mostly > definitely do want to graduate new button and form styles to all core > forms. It's actually one of the main complaints from the community early on > in the process, that we were doing things in a piecemeal fashion. > > Before we push out a production beta feature, we still have work we can > and should do to clean up button and form styles in mediawiki.ui, which we > can use Labs for. For instance, the crappy typography in the buttons which > is off-specification, the lack of appropriate padding for buttons, the > messy state of the wikitext edit form with mw.ui controls, the inconsistent > style of placeholders, and lots more. > > -- > Steven Walling, > Product Manager > https://wikimediafoundation.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Design mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design > >
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