Steven I totally agree, I have a meeting with James/Editing team to talk
about instrumentation of the WTE which we'll need to move forward with a
good comparison here. I would say that we only need to prove that it is not
disruptive, rather than measurably better. Do you feel like we'll need to
do quantitative tests on every button group or just some key forms like
edit, account creation, and maybe one or two others?



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On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Steven Walling <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Jared Zimmerman <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 1) yes, the "primary action" will be rightmost, this could mean
>> progressive, in the case of a multi-step form form, destructive in the case
>> of process where the primary function is to delete something and
>> constructive in the case of the final step in a single or multi-step
>> process that creates something or finalizes a  non destructive process.
>>
>> 2) they should be ordered from right to left in order of importance and
>> frequency of use, there should only be one primary action. secondary
>> actions should have neutral or quiet appearance.
>>
>> We will capture as many patterns and best practices in the mediawiki.ui
>> living style guide as possible, however they will be a guide and set of
>> best practices, and there will likely be exceptions, and places where the
>> patterns break down.
>>
>>
>> Without completely redesigning the bottom of the wikitext editor, the
>> minimal mediawiki.ui version of the WTE bottom could go from
>>
>> [ Save Page ] [ Show Preview ] [ Show Changes ] Cancel
>>
>> to…
>>
>> *Cancel/Discard* (mw.destructive.quiet) *Show changes*
>> (mw.progressive.quiet)  *Preview* (mw.progressive.quiet) *[ Save ]*
>>  (mw.constructive.normal)
>>
>
> Whether we change to follow this pattern needs to validated with users
> before we attempt to standardize on it. If we're going to completely flip
> the order of our actions on forms then we need to demonstrate that it's
> worth it.
>
>
>
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