On 2015-07-28, at 10:32 PM, Monte Hurd wrote:
> Hey all!
>
> I'm not very familiar with mediawiki skins, so apologies if this is
> ridiculous, not possible, mentioned already, etc, but what Jonathan said here
> really stood out to me as maybe at the heart of the issue:
>
> "But a new default skin isn't just reader-facing; it's everyone-facing.
> Making things easier, more engaging, or more delightful for non-editors isn't
> going to do us much good if it makes things harder, less engaging, or less
> delightful for editors."
>
> My question is, could mediawiki use one skin when editing (Vector, or rename
> it "Vector-Editing") and a copy of Vector ("Vector-Reading" or something)
> when not editing (i.e. when reading)? They'd be initially identical, but
> going forward they could begin to slowly diverge as required by their
> respective editing and reading flows. There'd just have to be a mechanism to
> switch at the appropriate time... in theory.
>
> -Monte
>
No, that's a bad idea. Editing is the core feature of Wikipedia. The interface
when not editing should *scream* editability. Disentangle reading from editing,
and we risk exacerbating the existing problem of recruiting newbies: it would
make it harder for them to acclimatize if there's a big interface shift on top
of everything else they have to learn (citing, neutrality, you name it). For
example, VisualEditor is an effort to reduce the existing shift, by (largely)
removing wikitext from the list of things necessary to learn.
Nihiltres
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