Re: [Design] Alternate sidebar designs for icons and the overlay state -- last call for votes

[Mimi Yin]

A couple of things to keep in mind re: the long history of the sidebar collection overlay icon discussions: + A year ago, I did some lightweight usability with the 0.6 sidebar collection overlay icons and the biggest problem all 3 users I tested had was that the mouseover effect was not obvious enough, so they completely missed it. Furthermore, when I did direct their attention to the mouseover effect, they weren't sure what clicking on the icon would do. http://wiki.osafoundation.org/bin/view/Journal/SidebarIconsDrivebyUsability This led me to think 2 things: 1. The mouseover effect needs to be very obvious. So in my mind, jarring is better than easily ignored. 2. It is important that the mouseover effect clearly communicate what the widget does. Otherwise, users might never try clicking on it.  A few things about the current design: + To reiterate, the 'trompe l'oeil' we're trying to pull off is: A 'tab' slides out from the left-side of the sidebar pane to cover up the collection icon that communicates as clearly as possible the concept: 'click on me to overlay this collection'.  + There is currently a bug: http://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6670 which subtly undermines this visual effect: a 1 pixel gap between the tab icon and the left-hand side of the pane and makes it harder to read the tab as something that 'slides out' from the sidebar frame. (I fully expect that we will iterate on this visually to make this effect more or less believable. e.g. Animation or Cross-fading would help smooth over the transition.) Just to throw it out there again, would a checkmark work better as a mouseover effect? We were originally going to kick-off Alpha 4 with the eye to try it out, but perhaps we should try out the checkmark first. On a side note, does anyone use Adium? They have tabbed chat windows and the mouseover effect for closing the tabs is completely different from the active state. Mimi PS Also remember that we will be launching Chandler OOTB with a few user-defined collections with 2 collections already overlayed to  On Sep 19, 2006, at 10:36 AM, Sheila Mooney wrote: I had a couple of Chandlers running for the day yesterday and tried out all the alternatives - current and John's proposals. I also like the current design best. I don't like the white space to the left of the collection icon...it just looks like there's a bug. The dot in my opinion makes the sidebar look visually cluttered. What we have now just looks a bit cleaner. The "eye" icon has taken me a bit of time to get used but I don't find it visually jarring. I am confident that we can iterate on this with Mimi when she gets back. Cheers, Sheila On Sep 18, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Jeffrey Harris wrote: Oops, Bryan just pointed out to me that there were two different CPIA test options, I'd missed that.  And my last paragraph was incoherent, so here's a re-phrasing: I like the existing look, except for the eye overlay, which confuses me somewhat.  I'm fine with a mouse-over for each sidebar column. The alternatives seem fairly intuitive, but I don't think they look as nice as Mimi's design. Sincerely, Jeffrey _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Open Source Applications Foundation "Design" mailing list http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/design _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Open Source Applications Foundation "Design" mailing list http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/design

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