John came up with the solution of allowing a 2nd click on a collection to shift focus to the sidebar. As for accessibility, we plan to support navigation between panes with the tab key, so there will be a solution for those folks as well :O)

On Oct 6, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Mike Taylor wrote:


On Oct 6, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Mimi Yin wrote:

Hi Bear,

Just to clarify, are you asking why the focus doesn't shift to the sidebar when you single-click a collection?

Here's some background on this issue: http:// lists.osafoundation.org/pipermail/design/2006-January/003759.html

Brief summary: when a user clicks on a collection in sidebar, that does not necessarily mean that their mental focus has shifted to the sidebar. In fact more often than not, their focus remains in the summary pane and they are simply manipulating the sidebar as a way to change what they see in the summary pane.

Especially in email clients, people have reported repeatedly, mistakenly using the arrow keys to navigate in the summary table view after switching folders, only to find that the keyboard focus shifted to the sidebar when they clicked to change views...
+ which can be very jarring because your main view changes; and
+ slow because your rapidly flipping through whole collections of items, rather than individual items

But again, not sure if this was your question...

sorry for being obtuse in my question!

My purpose in asking was to make sure that the focus was truly pointing to what the user wants focus to be on - like you said above about having the focus be on the items *in* the collection and not the collection text itself in the sidebar. The reason I was asking was that yesterday I started to think about how Chandler would behave when used by someone using a screen reader or other tools used for accessibility.

But that is something that I know has been thought about and won't happen till later so the second part of my question I'll withdraw till alter :)

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