I seems that the 2 items in the QA calendar that popped into the NOW section are both valid as far as I can tell. One of the items re- appeared with the same conflict I believe I had resolved earlier. I resolved it again today and it seems to have stayed. The other is a customer tickler set on a past instance of a recurring event, possibly for testing purposes.

Yes, lets do a joint test session this Wednesday at 11 a.m. Lets talk offline about what scenarios we would like everyone to exercise on a precreated shared collection.
On Dec 3, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Mimi Yin wrote:

Hi Aparna,

I've noticed this behavior for non-message events as well. Perhaps we should first give you an opportunity to investigate the problem a little bit and then meet up to see if we can design an effective test session. Assuming we conclude that a test session would help, do you think we could aim for next Wednesday? I think we should make sure Morgen is available and possibly Jeffrey as well.

Mimi

On Nov 30, 2007, at 10:10 PM, Aparna Kadakia wrote:

One observation is we have been noticing these odd cases in case of shared calendars that are being updated by multiple people and rendered thru multiple states thru edit/update. Yesterday, I mentioned to Philippe that I was seeing some odd behaviour with the QA calendar as well where some of the old PTOs and meetings were popping into the NOW section. I haven't had a chance to completely investigate that and figure out if they are basically dups of bugs you have filed below or different ones. I will look into that shortly.

IOW, I think the scenario that will help nail these cases is getting more people to use and update shared calendars. I am all for doing a test session for this but generally speaking I haven't been able to trigger these cases on demand. I happen to encounter them occasionally with QA calendar.

One idea is perhaps we could come up with some sharing scenarios what require edit/update and have multiple people run thru those scenarios in a single shared calendar during the test session. I can work with you on coming up with those cases.

In the meantime I will investigate the "popping into NOW" cases in the QA calendar.

On Nov 30, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Mimi Yin wrote:

Back in October, I started a thread on the design list re: weird triage/recurrence/sharing bugs having to do with items being marked Unread and popping into the NOW section for inexplicable reasons.

I believe we've addressed some of the underlying causes (ie. https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10799: Need a mechanism to ignore certain EIM fields when determining which items move to NOW or get marked unread). But I believe there are still bugs at large.

'Notification' via automatically popping items into the NOW section is core to the personal information management and collaboration workflows. What do we need to do to make sure we've addressed this problem for 1.0 (which is in reality, less than a month away if you take the holidays into consideration)?

Can we enlist the help of the Users list in some way? Have a dedicated test session? Ideas?
Mimi

Below is a screenshot of my Office Calendar collection after 1.5 days.

Entire recurring series keep popping into NOW but no evidence of global edit
https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10948
- See IRC QA Session item that is selected in screenshot, that's a good example of this bug. - I wonder if bug 10948 is somehow related to: https:// bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10795 (Byline does not match Who column)

Odd mixture of events keep popping into NOW in the Office Calendar
https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10894

Nov 12th, 2007 Weekly PPD Meeting keeps popping back to NOW
https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11475
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