On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 14:01 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > (Note to d-d-l people: the start of the thread is at > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2005-July/msg00086.html and > was supposed to be cc'ed to d-d-l, but Johan mistyped the address ;-)) > > On Sun, July 17, 2005 22:40, Murray Cumming said: > > On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 17:27 -0300, Johan Dahlin wrote: > >> Hello > >> > >> Is Gtk+ 2.8 going to be included in GNOME 2.12? > >> > >> Eg, can we have an official statement from the release team, so > >> distributions can start > >> packaging and expect it to be ready in time for 2.12 (eg. freeze end of > >> aug, rel early sept) ? > > > > Yes, we GNOME 2.12 is planned to use GTK+ 2.8. There's always a slight > > chance that we would try to revert to 2.6 is something went terribly > > wrong, but things seem to be OK so far. > > It seems, from a vendor point of view (I'm not a vendor), that we need > to make a real statement, without the "there is a slight chance that > we'll revert to 2.6".
There's always a slight chance of reverting for all modules, though it's sometimes difficult. I was just restating that we do not have a feature- based release cycle. > Else, nobody will use GTK+ 2.8. Right now, Ubuntu > is blocking on this and I'm sure there are other packagers who are in the > same situation. They won't use GTK+ 2.8 if we don't say we'll use it. I'm sure Ubuntu are quite capable of weighing this up themselves. > We need to take a decision. It seems everybody is saying 2.8 should be > okay, but we're not sure yet. I see three possibilities: > > a. wait > b. tell we'll ship with 2.6 > c. tell we'll ship with 2.8 It's c, with the usual warnings. > Option a is not useful for anyone, except for us. Nobody will be able to > use the new possibilities offered by GTK+ 2.8. Looks like a bad option to > me. > > Option b is possible. No real problem here, except that GTK+ people might > not be very happy with such a decision (and I can understand why). > > Option c has a positive effect: people will start packaging GTK+ 2.8 and > start using it. Problems will be found and solved. I'm sure the GNOME > community can find most of the problems with GARNOME/jhbuild/etc.-built > GNOME, but we'll have reports from at least Ubuntu people. I believe > this will enable us to fix all the problems. If we do it now. > > So, can we take a decision on this and announce it devel-announce-list > or anywhere where it's needed? > > As for my position on this: I was at first reluctant to the "shipping > with GTK+ 2.8" option, but I really believe we can find the problems > if it gets tested *now*. So I'm all for GTK+ 2.8 *now*. > > Vincent > -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list