On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 12:17 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 11/16/05, Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 11:54 +0000, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: > > > I subscribe the good opinion about Gobby, generally, but the security > > > of its network protocol leaves a lot to be desired. > > > > Agreed: whilst I'd like to use Gobby, the fact that the data is sent in > > plain-text isn't good. Some way of authenticating the servers/peers are > > who they say they are (think ssh host key fingerprints), and encrypted > > transport streams would be required before I'd use it for work. > > It seems to me that a collaborative editing feature in GNOME would be > a really killer feature, but it should really happen in the > applications that we all know and love. I would much prefer to use a > GEdit, Abiword and ultimately OOo plugin to do this. What Gobby could > offer is a library to handle this and a standard UI for establishing > and maintaining connections. This would sacrifice Gobby for inclusion, > but open the possibility for a general GNOME feature - Live > Collaboration.
It seems that the Gobby developers should provide a better idea regarding the intended use cases for Gobby. The argument that one would rather edit in something like GEdit may not really address the purpose of Gobby. Following the same logic, this potentially makes the lack of security features more understandable as well. I say this because one tool that addresses a specific collaboration need is better than forcing users to understand applications like Abiword, X-Chat and GEdit out of their original scope. To put this another way, why sacrifice the usability of something like Abiword or GEdit to support a corner case when Gobby can handle it more gracefully. This is the same for security concerns. Why force Gobby to deal with security when it may never really be needed. When it was used at GNOME summit, I don't believe that anyone would have any problems if someone was listening in on collaboration. This may be the primary use case (collaboration under a locally controlled network) they may merely need to be emphasized. I am not sure what this does as far as including it in GNOME, but I think people should definitely understand the purpose of Gobby before arguing that the ideas should be translated to another application or that it is missing key features. Eric _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
