On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 10:44 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: > On 1/18/06, Elijah Newren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1/15/06, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > So, the release team messed up and didn't keep close enough tabs on > > > everything, resulting in discovering an issue pretty late. We need to > > > try to find rough consensus in the community. > > > > So, here's my understanding of this thread and the alternate one[1] > > (feel free to correct anything I got wrong; I am not an expert in this > > area by any means): > > > > - There is no good or optimal solution; all choices have multiple > > drawbacks. :( We still have to pick one, though. > > - 0.10 is more stable in the doesn't-crash sense, but has a less > > complete set of plugins and thus cannot handle as many formats > > - The regressions that exist from the less complete set of plugins are > > limited to totem > > - these regressions are for formats we can't ship anyway, though they > > do limit what can be played in totem for those > > non-tree-hugging-lefties[2] who would otherwise be able to just > > download extra plugins. > > - 0.8 has very little development or maintenance effort and has > > unfixable problems due to inherently problematic API (causing various > > crashes, as noted above) > > - 0.8 and 0.10 can be installed simultaneously, though actively > > depending on both is a bigger maintenance load that would probably be > > better spent fixing stuff, and it may also be more annoying to users > > since preference applets only affect settings for one of the two > > versions (granted, this will only affect the users who don't want to > > use the defaults and who are able to understand those dialogs) > > - Those actively working on gstreamer now recommend 0.10, Ronald (who > > has done *huge* amounts of gstreamer work in the past and is > > volunteering to continue to work on 0.8 as his time permits) prefers > > 0.8 > > - most distros appear to be moving to 0.10 (JDS, Ubuntu, Fedora; > > Fedora is shipping both versions, but 'gstreamer' is 0.10 while > > there's also a 'gstreamer08') > > - not knowing what we're using is holding up the 2.13.5 release > > > > So, here's my proposal: > > Ship with 0.10. Have everything default to it. Also include 0.8 in > > the ftp directory, but not used. Include a big old section in the > > release notes explaining the situation and letting people know that > > they can recompile totem or compile a second version of totem against > > 0.8 if they wish. > > Okay, so this is now official; Gstreamer 0.10 is the plan for Gnome > 2.14. There's only one minor change to my proposal above, namely that > instead of adding unsed 0.8 tarballs to ftp just refer to them in the > important notice in the release notes about this issue (as suggested > by jdub, federico, and fcrozat). > > So, work on the delayed Gnome-2.13.5 release can now proceed. The > only problem remaining for that release now is that we need an > official gnome-media tarball that uses 0.10 (similar to the one Thomas > pointed to at > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-January/msg00270.html, > but which doesn't require running some transmogrify bash script + > autogen before getting to the configure stage. :-) Ronald, Thomas: > Can one of you make such a tarball for us and get it up on ftp?
The transmogrify script/patch fails during build with the following error: e.Tpo -c audio-profile.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/libgnome_media_profiles_la-audio-profile.o audio-profile.c: In function 'gm_audio_profile_sync_list': audio-profile.c:215: error: syntax error before 'GST_MAJORMINOR_QUOTED' audio-profile.c: In function 'gm_audio_profile_new': audio-profile.c:309: error: syntax error before 'GST_MAJORMINOR_QUOTED' audio-profile.c: In function 'gm_audio_profile_initialize': audio-profile.c:713: error: syntax error before 'GST_MAJORMINOR_QUOTED' audio-profile.c: In function 'gm_audio_profile_create': audio-profile.c:982: error: syntax error before 'GST_MAJORMINOR_QUOTED' audio-profile.c:1047: error: syntax error before 'GST_MAJORMINOR_QUOTED' audio-profile.c: In function 'gm_audio_profile_delete_list': audio-profile.c:1151: error: syntax error before 'GST_MAJORMINOR_QUOTED' make[4]: *** [libgnome_media_profiles_la-audio-profile.lo] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/mnt/hdb1/home/gnome/garnome-2.13.5/desktop/gnome-media/work/main.d/gnome-media-2.13.5/profiles' I'm building with gstreamer-0.10.2 and friends. Bob -- Bob Kashani http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~bobk/garnome _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
