On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:03 PM, natan yellin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Thomas H.P. Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> > That's a bit of an exaggeration, but there is something to what Leslie >> said. >> > Personally, I felt that in the case of GHOP, the grand prize was more >> > important to most people than the money or the t-shirt. >> >> Well, maybe. I was not part of it. I do remember her saying that some >> students who did not get picked wanted to continue anyway just of the >> t-shirt. But sure. Money counts a lot too. >> >> >> >> Wearing a soc t-shirt gets you recognition from your fellow hackers. >> >> Having a "diploma" from google in your CV gets you recognition from a >> >> future employer. >> > >> > It's a bit early to focus on specifics, but don't use the word diploma. >> > Something like "First Place 2009 GNOME Design Winner" sounds better even >> if >> > it's more verbose. >> >> Sorry, I wasn't being clear. I should have told you my position and >> motivation for this. I'm about to start the last year of my master and >> will soon start doing job interviews. By "diploma" I meant a nicely >> laid out document summarizing my contributions to gnome. I feel that >> what I have learned from doing gnome stuff is almost as important as >> my degree and I would like to be able to document that at a job >> interview. Hence the "dimploma". (sorry about that word. I don't know >> what to use instead.) >> > I understand. Open source does provide great experience, and an official > document summarizing your contributions and skills is more meaningful than a > few sentences on your resume in which you detail your involvement yourself. > >> >> >> Could we do something like that? A t-shirt for mvp hacker(s) of the >> >> year? Perhaps by vote from foundation members or the like? An official >> >> looking pretty printed/printable "diploma" summarizing ones >> >> contribution to gnome? >> > >> > That _does_ sound a bit lame, but perhaps thats just me. I think a >> better >> > approach would be to have an awards ceremony at GUADEC (formal events >> make a >> > much better impression), pay for the winner's flight, and give them a >> cash >> > prize, no matter how small and insignificant it is. It's not necessary, >> but >> > giving them a nice and shiny trophy like Apple does would also be a good >> > idea. >> >> That's great for getting credit among your fellow hackers. That was >> what I thought the t-shirt would accomplish. Either way is good. One >> is just more expensive and I think money is a very limited resource >> for such a thing. >> > While they both carry _some_ meaning, even just a paid ticket to GUADEC is > a lot more meaningful then a t-shirt recieved in the mail. > The ticket implies that they've done extremely good work, and not only do > they deserve recognition for that, but they get to attend GUADEC so that > they can continue to contribute more productively in the future. > > >> >> It's all about motivating developers to do more stuff. I personally >> care about getting a pad on the back for doing good work from fellow >> hackers and I also care about how I can do stuff to help me get a good >> job. Whatever means gets us there is fine :) > > As you said, there are two issues here: > 1. People want something that they can show when they get hired. > 2. People appreciate recognition. > >> >> - Thomas H.P. Andersen >> > Natan >
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