Want to jump in and acknowledge John's great attitude on defending his application. I wouldn't be surprised if he manages to have, if not already a good community around Conduit. Attitude counts.
Not to make this completely about John. I knew initially that I had a lot of problems getting Conduit working properly and that was about a year ago. I was greeted with a blank screen with no particular idea on how to start. It was somewhat buggy at the time so I wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong or if the application was buggy. Today, I'm able to set up a synch relationship. Once you understand that you're drawing relationships like you would a family tree it becomes a lot easier and intuitive. So Conduit has come a long way from a year ago. There is some UI tweaks and I should spend some time staring at it and see how it could be improved. I look forward to the phone synch mechanism which I think it will be a killer feature that we want on the desktop. cheers, sri On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 09:00 -0400, Willie Walker wrote: > Hi John: > > Thank you for your interest in accessibility -- it's a huge milestone > when mainstream developers ask "how can *I* do this" versus stating > "give me a patch and I'll see if we like it". Awesome stuff, and > accessible design/development is a skill I hope more and more people add > to their daily tool bag. > > Li is the AT-SPI infrastructure maintainer and is *very* good. He will > be the best person to help with understanding how to do the work. I > apologize for the sketchy documentation -- we're currently working on > improving that as part of the GNOME Outreach Program: Accessibility work. > > Thanks again for your consideration for accessibility! > > Will > > John Stowers wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 07:37 -0400, Willie Walker wrote: > >> From Li Yuan regarding a11y: > >> > >> "Accessibility is a problem for conduit. The GUI is simple, but the > >> left tree view doesn't support keyboard navigation well. Also one has > >> to drag some items to the right "sync area", there is no way to do this > >> by keyboard. And the "sync area" is not accessible. I suspect > >> accessibility work is need by goocanvas. > > > > Yeah, I saw those bugs today. Thanks a lot. I had a few discussions at > > GUADEC on how to actually implement the appropriate atk interfaces, for > > the canvas items, using python directly. It seems documentation on how > > to do this is a bit thin, at least in comparison with the rest of the > > accessibility+gtk docs, where one can set properties on the widgets > > directly. > > > > Does anyone have any idea on how to go about doing this? > > > > John > > > >> See: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545429 > >> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545430 > >> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545431 > >> > >> Li" > >> > >> On Jul 30, 2008, at 6:44 AM, Murray Cumming wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 23:49 +1200, John Stowers wrote: > >>>>> So with what sites can I easily sync my data (from what desktop > >>>>> applications)? > >>>> The following is a partial list of non-pim sync functionality > >>> I just tried Conduit (version 0.3.6 in Ubuntu Hardy) and I don't think > >>> it's at all easy. I failed to figure out how to upload (or sync) photos > >>> from a local folder to flickr. I did manage to drag rectangles for > >>> flickr and a folder to the canvas. > >>> > >>> It seems roughly comparable to using the gstreamer pipeline editor > >>> instead of using Totem. We can't possibly present this as an > >>> application > >>> for users. Major -1 from me. > >>> > >>> > >>> I don't like assistants (wizards) but I guess that this would be better > >>> with an additional assistant, guiding people through the choices > >>> somehow. For instance: > >>> > >>> Page 1: > >>> Synchronize to web or to device: > >>> > >>> [] Website > >>> [] Palm Pilot > >>> [] Windows CE Device > >>> [] Nokia Internet Tablet > >>> [] Mobile Phone > >>> > >>> Page 2 (Website): > >>> > >>> Choose Folder. > >>> > >>> Synchronize this folder to: > >>> > >>> Photos: > >>> [] Flickr > >>> [] Picasa > >>> etc > >>> > >>> Videos: > >>> [] YouTube > >>> [] Google Video > >>> etc > >>> > >>> General Files: > >>> [] Box.net > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> == Photos == > >>>> FSpot/eye of gnome/nautilus/folder <--> > >>>> * Flickr > >>>> * Picasa > >>>> * SmugMug > >>>> * ShutterFly > >>>> * Facebook > >>>> * iPod Phots > >>>> > >>>> == Videos == > >>>> totem/nautilus/folder --> > >>>> * Youtube > >>>> * iPod Video > >>>> * nxxx > >>>> > >>>> == Files == > >>>> * file/folder <--> file/folder > >>>> * Box.net > >>>> * S3 support (eta: 1 week) > >>>> * Google Documents > >>>> > >>>> == Notes == > >>>> Tomboy Notes <--> > >>>> * Backpack Notes > >>>> * File/Folder > >>>> > >>>> == Misc == > >>>> * RSS feed enclosures > >>>> * Desktop settings (GConf) > >>>> > >>>> There is also network sync functionality that allows two PCs to sync > >>>> peer to peer any of the above listed data. > >>>> > >>>> I have not gone into the other sync permutations possible, and I am > >>>> certain I have left some items out. > >>> -- > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> www.murrayc.com > >>> www.openismus.com > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> desktop-devel-list mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list > >> _______________________________________________ > >> desktop-devel-list mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- Sriram Ramkrishna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
