eOn Mon, 12.01.09 20:23, Josselin Mouette ([email protected]) wrote: > Le lundi 12 janvier 2009 à 17:33 +0100, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > > Isn't the fact that we plan to include both volume controls in GNOME > > transition phase enough? Those distros who like PA adopt the new one, > > the ones who don't continue to use the old one. Distros who are unable > > to decide have to ship both, but hey that's what you get when you > > cannot decide. > > Oh right, so we have to choose between supporting only PA and screw > other users, or not benefit from PA at all. What a choice.
Uh? You can ship both if you wish and pass the decision what to use to the user. I mean, that is the usual way Debian solves problems like this, isn't it? > Again, this should not be a distribution choice. PA is a good thing to > have, and we should be able to improve desktop experience with it, > without saying a big “fuck off” to users who can’t adopt it yet. Of course it should be a distribution's choice to adopt PA -- or not to adopt PA -- or (in the case of Debian) not to make a decision at all and pass it to the user. I am not sure why you think that shipping both volume controls is a "big fuck off". Please elaborate. There are quite a few features that cannot be implemented in the old volume control (or only with major beefups of the Gst mixer code with features with only a signle backend that implements them -- i.e. uglyness, redundancy, too much work, abstractionitis). For traditional audio interfaces the old g-v-c was fine. For PA the new one is fine. Since we know not everyone wants to adopt PA just yet both will be supported for a while. What exactly are you requesting? That everyone who adopts PA ships only the old g-v-c? That someone does the pointless work of extending GstMixer for the full functionality? > > Given that some people don't want to adopt PA anytime soon (such as > > the Solaris folks) I don't think we will be able to remove the old Gst > > mixer any time soon either. > > How about the applet then? Is there a plan to bring back a gst-based > one? Dunno. If you insist it could probably be kept around, but that's not up to me to decide. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net ICQ# 11060553 http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
