I generally agree with what you said, so I won't reply to every thing. On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 15:44 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Emmanuele Bassi <eba...@gmail.com> > wrote: > by the way, this whole thread is pretty angry and > confrontational - or, > at least, it feels a lot that way. > > It has. I think though as a project we're not quite managing this as > well as we could. Not enough context for the changes we are making > and we've always been kind of poor in communicating these things. > When there is a lack of real information in the overall structure of > what Gnome 3.0 means. So we have these discussions about applets > going away in a vacuum without really explaining the underlying > reasons why we are doing so. When we don't get the reasons then we > get into these rat holes.
I don't want the release-team to justify every single decision they make; the release-team mailing list archives are public, and so are the release team IRC meetings, AFAIK. democracy^WGNOME is made by those who show up. I consider the release-team as the "maintainers" of GNOME as a project; I don't go questioning the decisions of a maintainer, unless I'm willing to put my ass on the line and come up with a better alternative. if we need a "community manager" -- somebody that proxies (both ways) the release team/module maintainers and the community -- then we should ask the Foundation to look into this matter. > I think people just want to know what the final thing is going to look > like. I understand that feeling, but there is no "final thing": GNOME 2.x arrived at the dot-32 minor release, and it's still not done - the reason we're chucking away a bunch of stuff is precisely because it cannot be "done" in any other way (yes, it's true: it cannot be done in any other way; otherwise we'd be releasing GNOME 5.2 by now). the final thing is going to look slightly different in every cycle, because that's how GNOME 2.x started as well. I also don't want GNOME to be in the state where we can say that "it's done", because that implies the death of the project. ciao, Emmanuele. -- W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi _______________________________________________ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list