On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Marguerite Su <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Owen Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> > GNOME doesn't want to work well just for tweakers and enthusiasts - it's
> > very important to the project that GNOME works well for all users without
> > tweaking. We want to give the choice of using Free Software to
> > everybody - this is a much more fundamental form of choice than giving a
> small
> > group of users the ability to swap out a different input method framework
> > underneath GNOME.
>
> no offense, but if Chinese or CJK Community is "a small group"(I think
> I've already be clear about what CJK users are doing today. they'are
> the nowadays tweakers you called. why? because you didn't ship what
> they want.



Please, no reason to get offended - assume well and everything. I'm sure
what Owen meant is the following:

The group of CJK users who tweak / replace the IM (because the
out-of-the-box experience sucks) is small compared to the group of CJK
users who don't use free software / GNOME at all (because the
out-of-the-box experience sucks).

Introducing another level of abstraction ("IM framework framework") may
make the first group happy, but it doesn't help the second group at all.
Making the out-off-the-box experience not suck on the other hand should
benefit *all* CJK users.


so is Chinese or CJK Community "a small group" or "second class"? say
> that in public in Hong Kong.
>

Well, according to your own words, GNOME "does not ship what [CJK users]
want" - I guess you can call that "second class". The whole idea of
integrating IM into the core desktop rather than keeping it as an
after-thought is to make CJK users *first* class citizens. So again, please
don't feel offended.


Regards,
Florian
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