I use Clutter-GTK in gnome-initial-setup, but have been planning to drop it for performance concerns, and Owen's new paint clock and animations work means that it's no longer necessary.
Note that gnome-initial-setup is not a core module for 3.8, and is included as a preview of sorts. Much more work, including accessibility testing, would be necessary before it becomes standard. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Piñeiro <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry for the cross-posting, but not sure about the best list to send this. > > Background: AFAIK, clutter-gtk was always a proof of concept library. It > was not really used by any core module, and the plans towards Gtk4 with > respect to integrate gtk with clutter [1] basically announced his future > death. For that reason, although it was on in my personal TODO, I never > allocated too much time to fix the a11y aspects of that library. But, as > it is not clear when that gtk-clutter integration will happen, some > modules planned to use it towards GNOME 3.8. The poster boy there was > gnome-documents, so suddenly that item increased its priority. Taking > into account that there are just two weeks till freeze [2], my idea was > use any of my spare time on clutter-gtk a11y. > > But today, talking with Cosimo, he mentioned that he dropped clutter-gtk > dependency, and that probably other modules will follow. > > In case of someone wondering how much work adding a11y support on > clutter-gtk is, after some research and IRC chatting with Emmanuele, it > is doable but not trivial (anyway 3.8 is really near, so getting it > finished during these two weeks would be complex, probably it would be > postponed till 3.10). > > But sincerely, I'm not sure if all this really worth any effort at all. > It is basically deprecated, recently dropped by some modules, and > probably will be dropped soon by others. I only can think on Boxes as a > module that doesn't have plans for that. And sincerely there are other > places to put our any kind of a11y developing effort. > > In that sense, and looking to this problem from a different POV, one > could argue that as there are already reasons to not use clutter-gtk, we > could just say that "not having a11y support" is just another reason to > not use it, and that the a11y team do not plan to solve that aspect on > that support because clutter-gtk it is barely used. > > Doubts, doubts everywhere. So, I'm writing this mail to ask the opinion > of others. Questions like, how relevant do you see clutter-gtk on the > GNOME short-medium term? How many maintainers of core-apps plans to use > it? Do someone thinks that using any kind of developing time on > clutter-gtk really worths? > > BR > > [1] > > https://www.desktopsummit.org/program/sessions/gtk-4-future-your-favorite-toolkit > [2] > > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2013-February/msg00024.html > > -- > Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesias > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list > -- Jasper
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