>> Except for keyword searches, most people find the notion of a  
>> query very
>> challenging. To somehow "store" one is even harder. To then  
>> represent it
>> as a folder just adds an obscuring layer on top of that challenging
>> abstraction. Even worse, of course, is the fact that most people  
>> really
>> don't fully understand filesystems, and often are operating out of  
>> habit
>> and faith there.
>
> This is true, but in OSX and GNOME (and presumably Vista, when it  
> arrives), "smart folders" don't exist in isolation.  In OSX, some  
> of the iLife apps have their own "smart folders" (or "smart  
> playlists", in the case of iTunes), as does Mail.app.  Likewise in  
> GNOME, Evolution has had vFolders for years.  These might be  
> considered 'advanced' features (although they're not marketed as  
> such), but having used those, a user does at least gain some basis  
> for abstracting the idea into their file manager.

I know those are there... I have no data about how much ordinary  
folks use them (and, I admit we may have different notions of what an  
'ordinary user' is :-)

>> (on top of all this, I've never been highly clear what problems these
>> would actually solve for ordinary users :-)
>
> For the file manager case, I can at least see some /potential/ for  
> the sort of "ordinary user" who dumps everything into their "My  
> Documents" folder, and has no notion of subfolders-- but  
> ironically, of course, they're probably also the least likely to  
> discover and use the feature in the normal course of things.

Agreed on both counts.

> Where implemented inside individual applications, though, I'd say  
> they're a lot more useful... most iTunes users seem to understand  
> and use the concept of smart playlists (partly because it cleverly  
> comes with some pre-configured), smart folders are invaluable in  
> iPhoto when you have thousands of photographs to wade through, and  
> many Evolution users switched from other mail clients just to use  
> vFolders.

Interesting point.

david


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