On 28/03/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan <chrisfz at yahoo.com> wrote: > > "fat unstable GNOME" -- you realise that Sun chose > > GNOME as the > > desktop a long time ago for Solaris? I also think > > that your > > description of GNOME is rather unfair, and rather > > inaccurate. > > Please tell that to those who have problems with > software using gtk libraries among which is memory > usage. firefox on nexenta is not exactly stable.
Then file bugs on it. Honestly, I have used GNOME desktops for years all day for development, and I very rarely have run into any problem as severe as I had vague complaints about. Also, I sincerely doubt there are any memory usage problems with Gtk in general, I suspect it is more likely in the application you are using. > > You seem to not like GNOME very much or the most > > capable open source > > browser we have available for the platform. It might > > be better if you > > proposed alternatives. > > maybe it was too much sticking the whole GNOME. the > real problem is the gtk library. Unfortunately that > means everything else shares the problem. This is not > just on nexenta, it is also a problem on Linux > distro's and I have felt this way since RH9. If you > feel that is unfair then i guess you must also feel > that Linus Torvalds is unfair with his gripes with > GNOME then. No, the real problem is not the Gtk library. If you have specific proof of a problem in Gtk, please file a bug or share the technical details. Linus Torvalds gripes about GNOME have not been about memory usage at all, rather customisation, window managers, and input methods. > The best alternative is to have alternatives. I am not > going to say KDE, WindowMaker or whatever. There are many alternatives available already if users want them. > > > is a real pity that firefox and thunderbird use > > gtk. I > > > am not saying everything gnome is bad but the > > > underlying gtk stuff is something that I have not > > had > > > a very nice experience with. Of course, the > > nexenta > > > choice of deb packaging is very nice. > > > > What else would they use? > > qt. Qt's licensing remains an outstanding issue. Trolltech's licensing page claims you can use it under the QPL with any Open Source license approved by the OSI, but their licensing page has a few contradictions. I refuse to use a windowing library that forces my software to be GPL. Gtk doesn't do that. My choice of license should be mine and not that of the library I am using. > > > I'd want sun cc compiled packages and stable sun > > > libraries with gcc and glibc stuff available > > separately. > > > > That's what we have right now at last check. > > Which is fine. My first open solaris installation is > nexenta which for your information is gcc compiled > although with sun libraries. > > That is not very far from gcc + glibc solaris. I'd > rather Ian Murdock NOT take Solaris down that road. Well, you're certainly welcome to that view. I don't see Sun taking the route of Nexenta, although I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Every distribution meets the needs of different folks. -- "Less is only more where more is no good." --Frank Lloyd Wright Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst binarycrusader at gmail.com - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/
