On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Dave Miner wrote:
> Garrett D'Amore wrote:
>> Glynn Foster wrote:
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> Garrett D'Amore wrote:
>>>
>>>> I realize that a lot of focus is being spent on JDS 3/gnome, and that
>>>> this is largely a good thing for the end user.
>>>>
>>>> However, I am interested, also, in having a "lightweight" desktop
>>>> environment, suitable for use by system administrators to access gui
>>>> tools on machines that are otherwise not normally used as a desktop.
>>>> (Think of an NFS server somewhere. It is useful to be able to run smc
>>>> and such tools, without paying the full price of Gnome.)
>>>>
>>>> The requirements for such an environment would not be dissimilar to
>>>> those required for graphical suninstall -- a basic window manager like
>>>> mwm or dtwm would be adequate. I'd be even happier if we got something
>>>> like xfce4, which was open source, into such as an environment (but then
>>>> again, I use xfce4 on my primary desktop).
>>>>
>>> Sounds good to me - maybe it's something you'd like to consider championing?
>>> While it's probably a good business case for Sun to support any more
>>> desktops
>>> than we currently do [1], we could consider doing something like this in the
>>> companion CD?
>>>
>>>
>>> Glynn
>>>
>>> [1] And after CDE moves away, I'd far rather capture that space and reduce
>>> the number of CD's in a Solaris install than add another desktop env
>>>
>>
>> I have no idea if I can champion anything at all. But see my earlier
>> post with respect to "environments". At this point I would be strongly
>> in favor of picking up fvwm a basic Window Manger (not a whole desktop
>> environment) and putting it in the basic install (the same place that
>> twm is found) so that suninstall etc. can make use of it. I would _not_
>> like this on a separate companion CD, because at that point it loses
>> most of its advantages (sysadmins can't "count on it being there", and
>> Sun can't use it for suninstall, etc.)
>>
>
> I'm doubtful that we're interested in it for Solaris installation.
> We're moving in the direction of providing a full Gnome desktop instead
> that lets you try things out before installing or while the install is
> happening. Other distributions might make other choices, I suppose, but
> that's what we're looking at for Sun's.
Along those lines, what about isolating GNOME's window manager as Garrett
asked about yesterday (see below). Is it feasible?
Eric
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
== (Possibly the basic window manager from gnome would work too,
== as long as we only start up the window manager and not all
== the other gobbeldy-gook associated with gnome. I haven't
== looked lately, so I have no idea how tightly integrated the
== window manager in gnome is to the rest of the desktop.) ...