@Sean: It's easy - I won't put in the work to do it if I can't work
with the version I have at hand. And I can't work with it when it
relies on TC6.0 (and I won't switch over to Glassfish right now). I
guess that I'll not be the only one.

It's as easy as that. I promise to be the one to do the merging later on.

One more thing: there will be one branch only (JSF 1.2 TC 6) - the
trunk will JSF 1.2 TC 5.5.

The other branch will be our bugfixes-only JSF1.1 branch - no major
work being done there. I'd also say that if we want to get a bugfix in
this branch, we should get it in in the JSF 1.2 TC 5.5 as well, right
when the bugfix is applied. With this we save ourselves the hassle of
merging too much here.

@Dennis, you don't see the necessities to start with the major
features of the 1.2 implementation right now, even when TC 6.0 is not
yet available?

regards,

Martin

On 5/24/06, Dennis Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Please no multiple branches.  Thanks.

Dennis Byrne

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sean Schofield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:56 PM
>To: 'MyFaces Development', [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: JSF 1.2 [was: Cancelled: JavaOne MyFaces Committers/Contributors 
meeting]
>
>OK so Stan is past the TC 5.5 point.  Why do we need two branches?
>Can't we just say that 1.2 depends on TC 6.0 or Glassfish?  I still
>think we need to do everything we can to avoid multiple branches.
>
>Sean
>
>On 5/24/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> No. The current build should be compatible again - if I don't have old
>> information here...
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> On 5/24/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > So does this mean that our Tomahawk releases are no longer compatible
>> > with the RI?  That's our current problem right?
>> >
>> > Sean
>> >
>> > On 5/24/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > There is no 1.1 compliant way of fixing dummyform - there just isn't.
>> > >
>> > > I would have gone with a single branch for 1.2 and checking in TC5.5
>> > > compatible stuff only, but Stan has already worked on 1.2, and he has
>> > > implemented also TC6 depending things, so no chance to go with this,
>> > > except we want to loose what Stan did, and I wouldn't.
>> > >
>> > > I want to do development on the 1.1 branch for bugfixes only anymore.
>> > > 1.2 is our future, and we should go there!
>> > >
>> > > regards,
>> > >
>> > > Martin
>> > >
>> > > On 5/23/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > Are we talking about the fix for DummyForm?  Are we not going to
>> > > > attempt to have a 1.1 compatible fix?  What about a single branch for
>> > > > 1.2 and only check in the Tomcat 5.5 compatible stuff?
>> > > >
>> > > > I agree with Craig that you don't want to be actively developing on
>> > > > the trunk plus two branches.  Trust me, its difficult enough managing
>> > > > this when we have a short-lived branch for a release.
>> > > >
>> > > > -1 for a long-term double branch strategy.
>> > > >
>> > > > Sean
>> > > >
>> > > > On 5/23/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > > It's just that we need the 1.2 features for several things we want to
>> > > > > fix right now - and TC6 is still not released, so we can't work with
>> > > > > the full feature set of 1.2.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > regards,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Martin
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 5/22/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > > > Why is there a need to have a separate branch for TC6 vs. TC55.  
Sorry
>> > > > > > if I missed the discussion on the need for this ...
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Sean
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On 5/22/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > Hi Craig,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > critical fixes to 1.1. -> 1.1 branch
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > major development --> trunk
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > special things for 1.2 under TC6 only --> 1.2 branch
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > With this, it should be albe to merge down the 1.2 branch to the 
trunk, right?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > regards,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Martin
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On 5/21/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > Ok,
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > one more addition to the discussion - I'll want to branches. 
One for
>> > > > > > > > > JSF1.2 things which cannot be used together with Tomcat 5.5 
and, one
>> > > > > > > > > for JSF1.2 things which can be used with Tomcat 5.5. I'd 
love trunk to
>> > > > > > > > > be the JSF1.2/Tomcat 5.5 branch, and have bug fixes for 1.1 
on a real
>> > > > > > > > > branch.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > summary:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > 1.1 --> branch
>> > > > > > > > > 1.2 Tomcat 6 --> branch
>> > > > > > > > > 1.2 Tomcat 5.5. --> trunk
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > is that ok?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Wouldn't this mean that every change that worked under 5.5 
would need to be
>> > > > > > > > committed to both branches?  That seems like a good way to 
slow down the
>> > > > > > > > effort to achieve 1.2 compliance.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > regards,
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Martin
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Craig
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On 5/19/06, Stan Silvert < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > That would be fine.  After I am done we may need some help 
from Sean.
>> > > > > > > > > > He was talking about putting Tomcat 6 jars in an Apache 
Maven
>> > > > > > > > > > repository.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > I've been building with NetBeans and not Maven.  So 
someone who is more
>> > > > > > > > > > Maven savvy will need to update things so it builds 
correctly.  I don't
>> > > > > > > > > > think it will be more complicated than adding and removing 
some
>> > > > > > > > > > dependencies.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Stan Silvert
>> > > > > > > > > > JBoss, Inc.
>> > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > > > > > > > > callto://stansilvert
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > > > > > From: Manfred Geiler [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:48 PM
>> > > > > > > > > > > To: MyFaces Development
>> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: JSF 1.2 [was: Cancelled: JavaOne MyFaces
>> > > > > > > > > > > Committers/Contributors meeting]
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Sean,
>> > > > > > > > > > > Can you please make a copy of the current trunk to
>> > > > > > > > > > > /myfaces/core/branches/jsf_1_2 ?
>> > > > > > > > > > > After that, Stan can simply (?) merge his stuff inside 
that.
>> > > > > > > > > > > Is that ok, Stan?
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Manfred
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > You want a 1.2 branch for core only using the latest 
trunk right?  I
>> > > > > > > > > > > > can create it for you if you want ...
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Sean
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Martin Marinschek < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Manfred, can you go ahead with that 1.2 branch?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Thomas Spiegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having a look at tomahawk 416
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for creating a 1.2 branch
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Stan Silvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have implemented most of the new core API's 
and fixed most
>> > > > > > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deprecated ones to be backwards compatible with 
1.1 (if you
>> > > > > > > > > > look
>> > > > > > > > > > > at the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.2 javadocs you'll see what I mean).  If you 
look at the
>> > > > > > > > > > section
>> > > > > > > > > > > in the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spec preface entitled "What's Changed Since the Last 
Release"
>> > > > > > > > > > you
>> > > > > > > > > > > can
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get a feel for what I did.  I've pretty much 
done everything
>> > > > > > > > > > in
>> > > > > > > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of it is covered under this issue, which 
just says to
>> > > > > > > > > > > implement
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > several sections of the spec:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1274
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe all of 1274 is complete except
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ApplicationImpl.getResourceBundle ().  I
>> > > > > > > > needed code that reads
>> > > > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > new
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > faces-context.xml for that one.  However, all 
the ELResolver
>> > > > > > > > > > stuff
>> > > > > > > > > > > is
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > done including the ResourceBundleELResolver.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've also done some of the issues listed under 
General
>> > > > > > > > > > Changes.
>> > > > > > > > > > > For
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each item in that list, I created a Jira task.  
You can look
>> > > > > > > > > > at
>> > > > > > > > > > > Jira and
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see which ones I did.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was just getting started on the 
javax.faces.webapp package
>> > > > > > > > > > when
>> > > > > > > > > > > I was
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taken off of the project.  I probably won't 
commit any changes
>> > > > > > > > > > > from
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that.  I didn't touch the components or renderer 
at all.  With
>> > > > > > > > > > all
>> > > > > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > backward-compatible code I wrote, it appears 
that all the
>> > > > > > > > > > > components
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still work even though they are written the " 1.1 
way".
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, hopefully, what you guys will have to start 
with is a JSF
>> > > > > > > > > > 1.2
>> > > > > > > > > > > impl
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that is about half-way done and still works.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stan Silvert
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JBoss, Inc.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > callto://stansilvert
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Thomas Spiegl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:58 PM
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: JSF 1.2 [was: Cancelled: JavaOne 
MyFaces
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Committers/Contributors meeting]
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for solving tomahawk 416, being 
incompatible to RI is a
>> > > > > > > > > > > serious
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stan which 1.2 issues did you fix. Did you 
change any link
>> > > > > > > > > > > renderers?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If not, i am
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for open a 1.2 branch
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/17/06, Werner Punz < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sean Schofield schrieb:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm -1 on the 1.2 branch.  There are major 
issues to be
>> > > > > > > > > > > fixed in
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > core right now.  (See TOMAHAWK-416 and 
related dev
>> > > > > > > > > > > discussions.)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know that Stan is anxious but given the 
lack of interest
>> > > > > > > > > > in
>> > > > > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > core
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trunk, its hard to imagine we have enough 
support to
>> > > > > > > > > > sustain
>> > > > > > > > > > > this
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch.  Do we have firm committments from 
anyone else
>> > > > > > > > > > > besides
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stan?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for a fork... the reason we need to get 
going asap and
>> > > > > > > > > > a
>> > > > > > > > > > > fork
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we wait for another bunch of issues to be 
fixed, this
>> > > > > > > > > > will
>> > > > > > > > > > > never
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > end.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to say that so harsh, but the time on 
1.2 is really
>> > > > > > > > > > > pressing,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > given that there wont be an option in jee to 
override the
>> > > > > > > > > > > default
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JSF
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implementation via other libs in WEB-INF/lib 
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