>@Dennis, you don't see the necessities to start with the major
>features of the 1.2 implementation right now, even when TC 6.0 is not
>yet available?

Yes, 1.2 is important.  But I am under the impression I can use facelets until 
TC 6 is released.  Besides, most of the work I do in core is in Junit rather 
than a container.

Dennis Byrne

>regards,
>
>Martin
>
>On 5/24/06, Dennis Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Please no multiple branches.  Thanks.
>>
>> Dennis Byrne
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Sean Schofield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:56 PM
>> >To: 'MyFaces Development', [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject: Re: JSF 1.2 [was: Cancelled: JavaOne MyFaces 
>> >Committers/Contributors meeting]
>> >
>> >OK so Stan is past the TC 5.5 point.  Why do we need two branches?
>> >Can't we just say that 1.2 depends on TC 6.0 or Glassfish?  I still
>> >think we need to do everything we can to avoid multiple branches.
>> >
>> >Sean
>> >
>> >On 5/24/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> No. The current build should be compatible again - if I don't have old
>> >> information here...
>> >>
>> >> regards,
>> >>
>> >> Martin
>> >>
>> >> On 5/24/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > So does this mean that our Tomahawk releases are no longer compatible
>> >> > with the RI?  That's our current problem right?
>> >> >
>> >> > Sean
>> >> >
>> >> > On 5/24/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > There is no 1.1 compliant way of fixing dummyform - there just isn't.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I would have gone with a single branch for 1.2 and checking in TC5.5
>> >> > > compatible stuff only, but Stan has already worked on 1.2, and he has
>> >> > > implemented also TC6 depending things, so no chance to go with this,
>> >> > > except we want to loose what Stan did, and I wouldn't.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I want to do development on the 1.1 branch for bugfixes only anymore.
>> >> > > 1.2 is our future, and we should go there!
>> >> > >
>> >> > > regards,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Martin
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On 5/23/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > > Are we talking about the fix for DummyForm?  Are we not going to
>> >> > > > attempt to have a 1.1 compatible fix?  What about a single branch 
>> >> > > > for
>> >> > > > 1.2 and only check in the Tomcat 5.5 compatible stuff?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I agree with Craig that you don't want to be actively developing on
>> >> > > > the trunk plus two branches.  Trust me, its difficult enough 
>> >> > > > managing
>> >> > > > this when we have a short-lived branch for a release.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > -1 for a long-term double branch strategy.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Sean
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On 5/23/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > > > It's just that we need the 1.2 features for several things we 
>> >> > > > > want to
>> >> > > > > fix right now - and TC6 is still not released, so we can't work 
>> >> > > > > with
>> >> > > > > the full feature set of 1.2.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > regards,
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Martin
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > On 5/22/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > > > > Why is there a need to have a separate branch for TC6 vs. TC55. 
>> >> > > > > >  Sorry
>> >> > > > > > if I missed the discussion on the need for this ...
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > Sean
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > On 5/22/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > Hi Craig,
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > critical fixes to 1.1. -> 1.1 branch
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > major development --> trunk
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > special things for 1.2 under TC6 only --> 1.2 branch
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > With this, it should be albe to merge down the 1.2 branch to 
>> >> > > > > > > the trunk, right?
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > regards,
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > Martin
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > On 5/22/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > On 5/21/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > > > Ok,
>> >> > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > one more addition to the discussion - I'll want to 
>> >> > > > > > > > > branches. One for
>> >> > > > > > > > > JSF1.2 things which cannot be used together with Tomcat 
>> >> > > > > > > > > 5.5 and, one
>> >> > > > > > > > > for JSF1.2 things which can be used with Tomcat 5.5. I'd 
>> >> > > > > > > > > love trunk to
>> >> > > > > > > > > be the JSF1.2/Tomcat 5.5 branch, and have bug fixes for 
>> >> > > > > > > > > 1.1 on a real
>> >> > > > > > > > > branch.
>> >> > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > summary:
>> >> > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > 1.1 --> branch
>> >> > > > > > > > > 1.2 Tomcat 6 --> branch
>> >> > > > > > > > > 1.2 Tomcat 5.5. --> trunk
>> >> > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > is that ok?
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > Wouldn't this mean that every change that worked under 5.5 
>> >> > > > > > > > would need to be
>> >> > > > > > > > committed to both branches?  That seems like a good way to 
>> >> > > > > > > > slow down the
>> >> > > > > > > > effort to achieve 1.2 compliance.
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > regards,
>> >> > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > Martin
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > Craig
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > On 5/19/06, Stan Silvert < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > > > > That would be fine.  After I am done we may need some 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > help from Sean.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > He was talking about putting Tomcat 6 jars in an Apache 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > Maven
>> >> > > > > > > > > > repository.
>> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > I've been building with NetBeans and not Maven.  So 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > someone who is more
>> >> > > > > > > > > > Maven savvy will need to update things so it builds 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > correctly.  I don't
>> >> > > > > > > > > > think it will be more complicated than adding and 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > removing some
>> >> > > > > > > > > > dependencies.
>> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > Stan Silvert
>> >> > > > > > > > > > JBoss, Inc.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> > > > > > > > > > callto://stansilvert
>> >> > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > From: Manfred Geiler [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:48 PM
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > To: MyFaces Development
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: JSF 1.2 [was: Cancelled: JavaOne MyFaces
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > Committers/Contributors meeting]
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > Sean,
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > Can you please make a copy of the current trunk to
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > /myfaces/core/branches/jsf_1_2 ?
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > After that, Stan can simply (?) merge his stuff 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > inside that.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > Is that ok, Stan?
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > Manfred
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > You want a 1.2 branch for core only using the 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > latest trunk right?  I
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > can create it for you if you want ...
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Sean
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Martin Marinschek < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Manfred, can you go ahead with that 1.2 branch?
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Thomas Spiegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm having a look at tomahawk 416
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for creating a 1.2 branch
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/06, Stan Silvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have implemented most of the new core API's 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and fixed most
>> >> > > > > > > > > > of
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > the
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deprecated ones to be backwards compatible 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with 1.1 (if you
>> >> > > > > > > > > > look
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > at the
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.2 javadocs you'll see what I mean).  If you 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look at the
>> >> > > > > > > > > > section
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > in the
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spec preface entitled "What's Changed Since 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Last Release"
>> >> > > > > > > > > > you
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > can
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get a feel for what I did.  I've pretty much 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > done everything
>> >> > > > > > > > > > in
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > that
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of it is covered under this issue, which 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just says to
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > implement
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > several sections of the spec:
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1274
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe all of 1274 is complete except
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ApplicationImpl.getResourceBundle ().  I
>> >> > > > > > > > needed code that reads
>> >> > > > > > > > > > the
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > new
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > faces-context.xml for that one.  However, all 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ELResolver
>> >> > > > > > > > > > stuff
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > is
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > done including the ResourceBundleELResolver.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've also done some of the issues listed 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > under General
>> >> > > > > > > > > > Changes.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > For
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each item in that list, I created a Jira 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > task.  You can look
>> >> > > > > > > > > > at
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > Jira and
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see which ones I did.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was just getting started on the 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > javax.faces.webapp package
>> >> > > > > > > > > > when
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > I was
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taken off of the project.  I probably won't 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > commit any changes
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > from
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that.  I didn't touch the components or 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > renderer at all.  With
>> >> > > > > > > > > > all
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > the
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > backward-compatible code I wrote, it appears 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that all the
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > components
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still work even though they are written the " 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.1 way".
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, hopefully, what you guys will have to 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > start with is a JSF
>> >> > > > > > > > > > 1.2
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > impl
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that is about half-way done and still works.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stan Silvert
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JBoss, Inc.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > callto://stansilvert
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Thomas Spiegl [mailto:[EMAIL 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED] ]
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:58 PM
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: JSF 1.2 [was: Cancelled: 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JavaOne MyFaces
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Committers/Contributors meeting]
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for solving tomahawk 416, being 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incompatible to RI is a
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > serious
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stan which 1.2 issues did you fix. Did you 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > change any link
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > renderers?
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If not, i am
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for open a 1.2 branch
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/17/06, Werner Punz < [EMAIL 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sean Schofield schrieb:
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm -1 on the 1.2 branch.  There are 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > major issues to be
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > fixed in
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > core right now.  (See TOMAHAWK-416 and 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > related dev
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > discussions.)
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know that Stan is anxious but given the 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lack of interest
>> >> > > > > > > > > > in
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > the
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > core
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trunk, its hard to imagine we have 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough support to
>> >> > > > > > > > > > sustain
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > this
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch.  Do we have firm committments 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from anyone else
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > besides
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stan?
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for a fork... the reason we need to 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get going asap and
>> >> > > > > > > > > > a
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > fork
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we wait for another bunch of issues to 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be fixed, this
>> >> > > > > > > > > > will
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > never
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > end.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to say that so harsh, but the time 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on 1.2 is really
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > pressing,
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > given that there wont be an option in jee 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to override the
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > default
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JSF
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implementation via other libs in 
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WEB-INF/lib like it was
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > possible in
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JEE4
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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