Hi everyone, I do not personally have much experience with open source (free) books. However, for the Jython book we were able to use an online copy of it on the Jython wiki. Not sure if we could do something similar here.
John, if you are interested in becoming the lead then that is great. I can work with you to get in touch with the editor to get the project started. We should decide as a community first on how we want this book to be published...vis Apress or other means? Personally I have worked with Apress many times now and they are very accommodating. However, I am open to looking at a free alternative if the group would rather go that route. Thanks Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jul 18, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Delfi Ramirez <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi all, Hi Pete: > > I guess, there may be a previous formal written contract between the writers > ( our community) and the publishing company, (APress or whoever). > > If any of the writers ( code is text, text are strings, remember) has a > formal contract with his/her software company he/she should ask for the > permission to act on her/his personal behalf. > > Money you pay for a physical book covers the expenses of print, logistics ( > storage , delivering) and marketing. It also covers the licenses and , if > accorded, the rights of the publisher. > > Et cetera. > > Hope it helps. > > Cheers > > > > Delfi Ramirez > > Segonquart Studio > > https://segonquart.net > > From: Peter Steele > Sent: 18 July 2018 20:17 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book > > I had a look at Apress and there are quite a few books on netbeans (one > already that uses Netbeans 9 for its demos!). They all cost money > (unsurprisingly), I was wondering how that would fit in to a community > written book? > > I don't have any expertise to add myself (I'm kind of waiting till things > stabilise to a standard development life cycle before investing some time > in to adding enhancements) but was interested in how it would work. > > Is it better to actually just write a free book? Or do Apress bring a lot > to the venture? > >> On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 17:22 Mario Schroeder, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Miloš, >> >> that what you describe is what I also thought about. I got an book about NB >> too, but the samples there don't use the annotations and some classes are >> even deprecated. So an update to the latest version of the platform would >> be great. I could be your copilot if you need help in reviews and >> correction. >> >> Regards, >> Mario >> >> Miloš Šilhánek <[email protected]> schrieb am Mi., 18. Juli 2018, >> 17:54: >> >>> Hi, >>> I was been interested some years ago in NetBeans Platform. I organized >>> translation from English to Czech and cowrote a NetBeans Platform >>> Cookbook >>> which were not realized - it is on NB wiki pages. >>> >>> So I leaved it - because of time and the need of application based on NB >>> Platform disappears in my work. >>> Now is all by browser. :-(. But NBP is suitable for many application as >>> the >>> showcase shows. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The book was made for NB 6.9.1 and tested for 7.1. Many features were >>> moved >>> to annotations in this time. We both had no time to upgrade it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> My English is poor so I could upgrade these examples or test new >> examples. >>> >>> Milos >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Původní e-mail ---------- >>> Od: Delfi Ramirez <[email protected]> >>> Komu: [email protected] < >> [email protected] >>>> >>> Datum: 16. 7. 2018 13:56:18 >>> Předmět: RE: Apache NetBeans Apress Book >>> "Hi All: >>> >>> Agreed there is the need of a chapter-by-chapter community written book. >>> >>> Count me in. Even if there is the need for the book, once written, of a >>> single translator for the whole community content. >>> >>> Even everyone of us has English as a mother tongue or second tongue, we >>> may >>> able to reach and target new markets and new loyal fellows in this world >>> wide world we live in >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> Delfi Ramirez >>> >>> Segonquart Studio >>> >>> https://segonquart.net >>> >>> From: Oliver Rettig >>> Sent: 16 July 2018 13:47 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I like the idea of a community-written book very much. This can encourage >>> people to join >>> our great community and it show that netbeans is now a apache project ... >>> For me the >>> community is one of the most important facts to work with netbeans and >>> rarely with eclipse. >>> >>> I have some experience with writing a book for Tomcat 5: >>> >>> https://www.rheinwerk-verlag.de/tomcat-5_700/ >>> >>> and the most important thing I have learned from this book project is: >>> better not to write >>> such books alone. >>> >>> It would be a pleasure for me to write a chapter for a community-written >>> Netbeans book, or >>> may be to translate from english to german some parts, if we want to have >>> a >>> german >>> version. >>> >>> But I have less experience in organzing such things. In scientific >>> communities typically you >>> have an editor or a small team of editors. Their job is often really a >> lot >>> of work: to defines the >>> chapters/articles, to find people who can write the articles and to push >>> the >>> authors to deliver >>> in the timeline. >>> >>> An other question is where and how to publish the book. My experience >> with >>> the Tomcat >>> book was that the publisher was a really great help in formatting and >>> proofreading. And a >>> publisher can be a very big help in invertising for apache netbeans. >>> >>> But it should be also possible to write the book without a publisher at >>> our >>> own. In this case >>> we can have an open-pdf-Version of the book. Maye we can have this too >>> with >>> a publisher? >>> >>> best regards >>> Oliver >>> >>> >>>> I've been approached by Apress regarding interest in a book on Apache >>>> NetBeans. I personally do not have enough time to devote to another >> book >>>> right now, so I wanted to send a note to the Apache NetBeans developer >>>> group to see if there are any developers interested in authoring a book >>>> (perhaps a collaborative effort). >>>> >>>> I know things are very busy right now, and I've already told Apress >> that >>>> the main focus is the release of Apache NetBeans 9 right now, but maybe >>> a >>>> book project could start this fall. There are no timelines right >>>> now...just interest in a book on the new open Apache NetBeans IDE. >>>> >>>> If anyone is interested then reply to this message and I can get a list >>> of >>> >>>> names together to send along to Apress. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Josh Juneau >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com >>>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 >>> >>> >>> >>> " >> >
