Thanks Josh. I don't have much experience with publishers as I prefer the wiki books, but yes please.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 at 00:26, Josh Juneau <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I do not personally have much experience with open source (free) books. > However, for the Jython book we were able to use an online copy of it on > the Jython wiki. Not sure if we could do something similar here. > > John, if you are interested in becoming the lead then that is great. I > can work with you to get in touch with the editor to get the project > started. > > We should decide as a community first on how we want this book to be > published...vis Apress or other means? > > Personally I have worked with Apress many times now and they are very > accommodating. However, I am open to looking at a free alternative if the > group would rather go that route. > > Thanks > > > Josh Juneau > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > > On Jul 18, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Delfi Ramirez <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hi all, Hi Pete: > > > > I guess, there may be a previous formal written contract between the > writers ( our community) and the publishing company, (APress or whoever). > > > > If any of the writers ( code is text, text are strings, remember) has a > formal contract with his/her software company he/she should ask for the > permission to act on her/his personal behalf. > > > > Money you pay for a physical book covers the expenses of print, > logistics ( storage , delivering) and marketing. It also covers the > licenses and , if accorded, the rights of the publisher. > > > > Et cetera. > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > Delfi Ramirez > > > > Segonquart Studio > > > > https://segonquart.net > > > > From: Peter Steele > > Sent: 18 July 2018 20:17 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book > > > > I had a look at Apress and there are quite a few books on netbeans (one > > already that uses Netbeans 9 for its demos!). They all cost money > > (unsurprisingly), I was wondering how that would fit in to a community > > written book? > > > > I don't have any expertise to add myself (I'm kind of waiting till things > > stabilise to a standard development life cycle before investing some time > > in to adding enhancements) but was interested in how it would work. > > > > Is it better to actually just write a free book? Or do Apress bring a lot > > to the venture? > > > >> On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 17:22 Mario Schroeder, <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Miloš, > >> > >> that what you describe is what I also thought about. I got an book > about NB > >> too, but the samples there don't use the annotations and some classes > are > >> even deprecated. So an update to the latest version of the platform > would > >> be great. I could be your copilot if you need help in reviews and > >> correction. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Mario > >> > >> Miloš Šilhánek <[email protected]> schrieb am Mi., 18. Juli 2018, > >> 17:54: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> I was been interested some years ago in NetBeans Platform. I organized > >>> translation from English to Czech and cowrote a NetBeans Platform > >>> Cookbook > >>> which were not realized - it is on NB wiki pages. > >>> > >>> So I leaved it - because of time and the need of application based on > NB > >>> Platform disappears in my work. > >>> Now is all by browser. :-(. But NBP is suitable for many application as > >>> the > >>> showcase shows. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The book was made for NB 6.9.1 and tested for 7.1. Many features were > >>> moved > >>> to annotations in this time. We both had no time to upgrade it. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> My English is poor so I could upgrade these examples or test new > >> examples. > >>> > >>> Milos > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------- Původní e-mail ---------- > >>> Od: Delfi Ramirez <[email protected]> > >>> Komu: [email protected] < > >> [email protected] > >>>> > >>> Datum: 16. 7. 2018 13:56:18 > >>> Předmět: RE: Apache NetBeans Apress Book > >>> "Hi All: > >>> > >>> Agreed there is the need of a chapter-by-chapter community written > book. > >>> > >>> Count me in. Even if there is the need for the book, once written, of a > >>> single translator for the whole community content. > >>> > >>> Even everyone of us has English as a mother tongue or second tongue, we > >>> may > >>> able to reach and target new markets and new loyal fellows in this > world > >>> wide world we live in > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> > >>> Delfi Ramirez > >>> > >>> Segonquart Studio > >>> > >>> https://segonquart.net > >>> > >>> From: Oliver Rettig > >>> Sent: 16 July 2018 13:47 > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book > >>> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I like the idea of a community-written book very much. This can > encourage > >>> people to join > >>> our great community and it show that netbeans is now a apache project > ... > >>> For me the > >>> community is one of the most important facts to work with netbeans and > >>> rarely with eclipse. > >>> > >>> I have some experience with writing a book for Tomcat 5: > >>> > >>> https://www.rheinwerk-verlag.de/tomcat-5_700/ > >>> > >>> and the most important thing I have learned from this book project is: > >>> better not to write > >>> such books alone. > >>> > >>> It would be a pleasure for me to write a chapter for a > community-written > >>> Netbeans book, or > >>> may be to translate from english to german some parts, if we want to > have > >>> a > >>> german > >>> version. > >>> > >>> But I have less experience in organzing such things. In scientific > >>> communities typically you > >>> have an editor or a small team of editors. Their job is often really a > >> lot > >>> of work: to defines the > >>> chapters/articles, to find people who can write the articles and to > push > >>> the > >>> authors to deliver > >>> in the timeline. > >>> > >>> An other question is where and how to publish the book. My experience > >> with > >>> the Tomcat > >>> book was that the publisher was a really great help in formatting and > >>> proofreading. And a > >>> publisher can be a very big help in invertising for apache netbeans. > >>> > >>> But it should be also possible to write the book without a publisher at > >>> our > >>> own. In this case > >>> we can have an open-pdf-Version of the book. Maye we can have this too > >>> with > >>> a publisher? > >>> > >>> best regards > >>> Oliver > >>> > >>> > >>>> I've been approached by Apress regarding interest in a book on Apache > >>>> NetBeans. I personally do not have enough time to devote to another > >> book > >>>> right now, so I wanted to send a note to the Apache NetBeans developer > >>>> group to see if there are any developers interested in authoring a > book > >>>> (perhaps a collaborative effort). > >>>> > >>>> I know things are very busy right now, and I've already told Apress > >> that > >>>> the main focus is the release of Apache NetBeans 9 right now, but > maybe > >>> a > >>>> book project could start this fall. There are no timelines right > >>>> now...just interest in a book on the new open Apache NetBeans IDE. > >>>> > >>>> If anyone is interested then reply to this message and I can get a > list > >>> of > >>> > >>>> names together to send along to Apress. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> > >>>> Josh Juneau > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > >>>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> " > >> > > >
