Hallo again,
and thank you for your feedback. I couldn't have described the effort
needed in a better way.
In order to somehow start, here are few things that we need to consider in
my opinion.
1. *How we can cooperate.*
1. I suggest that we use a header like the one in this email in order
to make it easier to categorise the emails targeting the group of authors
of the book, and don't disturb others in the dev mailing list.
2. I have also created a google group (
[email protected]) which you could join (I
'll also try to invite some of those in this thread that are
interested in
contributing).
3. Are you aware of any web co-authoring tool? There are a number
wiki-like ones, free and non-free, but I don't know of any that
we can keep
our work restricted of the world. I use for example github.io. I
don't know if Apress can offer us such an infrastructure, i.e. a
wiki that
can be private to its members to co-author a book? Bertrand mentions that
Any PoC in Apress Josh?
2. *Book structure*
1. We also need to decide on the book structure. Geertjan already
proposed to split it into three parts, each of
which could be split into about 5 chapters:
Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans
Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans
Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans
2. We need to decide what will these 5x3 = 15 chapters are going to
be and who writes what.
1. E.g. thanks to Oliver:
2. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4k5JpluJM8
https://www.slideshare.net/GeertjanWielenga/extending-nbide
- new language support
- some available language additions
- useful available external plugins
3. Thanks to Milos here is a lot of material on NetBeans Platform
Cookbook <http://wiki.netbeans.org/BookNBPlatformCookbook> which
we could use as a base for some chapters rewriting them to NB
9 (again for
Part 2)
4. I 'll do a search and provide a list of all available NetBeans
books published so far, so that we could have an idea what
has been out
there, and maybe give more ideas for chapters.
Here is a very draft proposal of the various chapters, but we could discuss
of course:
*Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans*
Chapter 1: What is NetBeans. A short history of NetBeans. Apache NetBeans.
Distinction of NetBeans platform and NetBeans IDE. New features support in
version 9. How do download and install Apache NetBeans 9
Chapter 2: Getting Started with NetBeans. Layout, editing files and
projects, tips and tricks
Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw support, jshell etc.
Chapter 4: Running, debugging, profiling applications
Chapter 5: Developing desktop applications (Swing and JavaFX)
*Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans*
Chapter 6: Introduction to NetBeans RCP. Core, UI
Chapter 7: Module System, File System, Lookup
Chapter 8: Window system, Actions, Nodes and Explorers, HTML/UI
Chapter 9: Extras, Visual Library, Dialogs, etc.
Chapter 10: Writing a NetBeans plugin
*Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans* *(a lot of material can be found
in our cwiki <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/>)*
Chapter 11: Overview of how NetBeans 9 is hosted in Apache, infrastructure:
Apache JIRA, Confluence, wiki etc.
Chapter 12: Apache mailing list, Apache NetBeans web page
Chapter 13: NetCAT, synergy
Chapter 14: How to download and build Apache NetBeans 9 from sources;
Chapter 15: How to contribute (fixing bugs, articles, web site, NETCAT,
writing plugins); what needs to be done (e.g. code donations etc.)
I look forward your feedback.
Regards,
John.
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 14:38, Geertjan Wielenga
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Broadly, I think such a book should be split into three parts, each of
> which could be split into about 5 chapters:
>
> Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans
> Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans
> Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans
>
> Gj
>
> On Monday, July 16, 2018, Delfi Ramirez <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi All:
> >
> > Agreed there is the need of a chapter-by-chapter community written book.
> >
> > Count me in. Even if there is the need for the book, once written, of a
> > single translator for the whole community content.
> >
> > Even everyone of us has English as a mother tongue or second tongue, we
> > may able to reach and target new markets and new loyal fellows in this
> > world wide world we live in
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > Delfi Ramirez
> >
> > Segonquart Studio
> >
> > https://segonquart.net
> >
> > From: Oliver Rettig
> > Sent: 16 July 2018 13:47
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I like the idea of a community-written book very much. This can
> encourage
> > people to join
> > our great community and it show that netbeans is now a apache project ...
> > For me the
> > community is one of the most important facts to work with netbeans and
> > rarely with eclipse.
> >
> > I have some experience with writing a book for Tomcat 5:
> >
> > https://www.rheinwerk-verlag.de/tomcat-5_700/
> >
> > and the most important thing I have learned from this book project is:
> > better not to write
> > such books alone.
> >
> > It would be a pleasure for me to write a chapter for a community-written
> > Netbeans book, or
> > may be to translate from english to german some parts, if we want to have
> > a german
> > version.
> >
> > But I have less experience in organzing such things. In scientific
> > communities typically you
> > have an editor or a small team of editors. Their job is often really a
> lot
> > of work: to defines the
> > chapters/articles, to find people who can write the articles and to push
> > the authors to deliver
> > in the timeline.
> >
> > An other question is where and how to publish the book. My experience
> with
> > the Tomcat
> > book was that the publisher was a really great help in formatting and
> > proofreading. And a
> > publisher can be a very big help in invertising for apache netbeans.
> >
> > But it should be also possible to write the book without a publisher at
> > our own. In this case
> > we can have an open-pdf-Version of the book. Maye we can have this too
> > with a publisher?
> >
> > best regards
> > Oliver
> >
> >
> > > I've been approached by Apress regarding interest in a book on Apache
> > > NetBeans. I personally do not have enough time to devote to another
> book
> > > right now, so I wanted to send a note to the Apache NetBeans developer
> > > group to see if there are any developers interested in authoring a book
> > > (perhaps a collaborative effort).
> > >
> > > I know things are very busy right now, and I've already told Apress
> that
> > > the main focus is the release of Apache NetBeans 9 right now, but
> maybe a
> > > book project could start this fall. There are no timelines right
> > > now...just interest in a book on the new open Apache NetBeans IDE.
> > >
> > > If anyone is interested then reply to this message and I can get a list
> > of
> > > names together to send along to Apress.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Josh Juneau
> > > [email protected]
> > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
