Note, everything that is part of NetBeans is free and open source. What we're discussing here is whether (1) Oracle is able to donate the code to Apache, which means Oracle needs to make sure the code really and truly does belong to Oracle and (2) whether Apache can release the code. In this particular case, the 2nd part of not applicable -- Apache will not be releasing the code that is used to build the installers, i.e., these are build/compile-time relevant only, so the question of distribution of these files is irrelevant.
Thanks, Gj On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:37 PM, Carl Mosca <[email protected]> wrote: > OK thank you. > > My understanding is that in general if there are IP issues, the original > authors cannot write the new/replacement code and those who may write the > new code should not look at the old code...but I am not an attorney. :) > > Carl > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 4:35 PM Geertjan Wielenga > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes, it slipped through the cracks. Possibly there'll be problems with > > parts of the code because of IP, but I'll be sure to keep this thread > > updated as we move along with this now, i.e., it will (as much as > possible > > of it) be part of the 3rd donation. It would really help if those > > knowledgeable in this area (there appear to be a lot, in this thread) > would > > look at that repo and see whether those scripts and files and so on do > the > > job and are what's needed, we're going to need to build up expertise in > > this area together, sure, Oracle engineers will be available to support > and > > answer questions and so on, but the more we spread the knowledge the > > better. > > > > Gj > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:30 PM, Carl Mosca <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > This is good news. Somehow I got the impression that this code was not > > > available due to IP and/or license issues. > > > > > > Thank you Gj. > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:39 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:46 AM, Will Hartung <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That said, looking at the git zip download, there's most certainly > > > > evidence > > > > > of the ability to create the Mac installers, which was kind of my > > base > > > > > puzzle. These existed before, where's the scripts to build it? The > > > actual > > > > > build scripts I can't find, I don't know if they are on/lost with > the > > > > > Hudson server (I can't seem to connect to the one linked at the > > nb.org > > > > > page). All of the hudson.* directories seem to relate to NetBeans > > > hudson > > > > > support, not the build. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's a good point. > > > > > > > > Installers were always created for NetBeans releases, including DMG > > > > installers. > > > > > > > > Looking in the hg repo at Oracle, this is where the related scripts > and > > > so > > > > on are found: > > > > > > > > http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/tip/installer > > > > > > > > These have not yet been included in the donation process, since we > have > > > > been focusing on clusters (e.g., the 'java' cluster, the 'php' > cluster, > > > > etc) and this 'installer' folder falls outside the clusters. > > > > > > > > So, we will work on including the installer folder from the hg repo > > into > > > > the donation that we're currently working on, i.e., the 3rd donation. > > > > > > > > Apologies for not thinking about this earlier -- i.e., we've had the > > > > solution all along and simply not yet included them in the donation. > > > > > > > > Can those knowledgeable in this area take a look at the above folder > -- > > > it > > > > includes everything needed AFAIK for installers for Windows, Linux, > and > > > > Mac. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Finally, the Apache infrastructure has a build bot running on a Mac > > > Mini. > > > > > If the original build scripts can be found, and the proper > > permissions > > > > > acquired on the Mac Build bot, then, ideally, the previous build > can > > be > > > > > ported to the new infrastructure. > > > > > > > > > > Ideally, this shouldn't have to be a clean room reinvention of the > > > wheel > > > > if > > > > > it were deigned to be something that the group still wanted to have > > > > > supported. > > > > > > > > > > But, I don't know. > > > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Carl J. Mosca > > > > > > > > -- > Carl J. Mosca >
