Here's info about the installer-related code that is being audited for
donation:

http://wiki.netbeans.org/Launchers_Installers_NBI

Gj


On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:43 PM, Carl Mosca <[email protected]> wrote:

> Got it, thank you.
>
> Carl
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 4:40 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Note, everything that is part of NetBeans is free and open source.
> >
> > What we're discussing here is whether (1) Oracle is able to donate the
> code
> > to Apache, which means Oracle needs to make sure the code really and
> truly
> > does belong to Oracle and (2) whether Apache can release the code. In
> this
> > particular case, the 2nd part of not applicable -- Apache will not be
> > releasing the code that is used to build the installers, i.e., these are
> > build/compile-time relevant only, so the question of distribution of
> these
> > files is irrelevant.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:37 PM, Carl Mosca <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > OK thank you.
> > >
> > > My understanding is that in general if there are IP issues, the
> original
> > > authors cannot write the new/replacement code and those who may write
> the
> > > new code should not look at the old code...but I am not an attorney. :)
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 4:35 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, it slipped through the cracks. Possibly there'll be problems
> with
> > > > parts of the code because of IP, but I'll be sure to keep this thread
> > > > updated as we move along with this now, i.e., it will (as much as
> > > possible
> > > > of it) be part of the 3rd donation. It would really help if those
> > > > knowledgeable in this area (there appear to be a lot, in this thread)
> > > would
> > > > look at that repo and see whether those scripts and files and so on
> do
> > > the
> > > > job and are what's needed, we're going to need to build up expertise
> in
> > > > this area together, sure, Oracle engineers will be available to
> support
> > > and
> > > > answer questions and so on, but the more we spread the knowledge the
> > > > better.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:30 PM, Carl Mosca <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This is good news.  Somehow I got the impression that this code was
> > not
> > > > > available due to IP and/or license issues.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you Gj.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:39 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:46 AM, Will Hartung <
> > [email protected]
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That said, looking at the git zip download, there's most
> > certainly
> > > > > > evidence
> > > > > > > of the ability to create the Mac installers, which was kind of
> my
> > > > base
> > > > > > > puzzle. These existed before, where's the scripts to build it?
> > The
> > > > > actual
> > > > > > > build scripts I can't find, I don't know if they are on/lost
> with
> > > the
> > > > > > > Hudson server (I can't seem to connect to the one linked at the
> > > > nb.org
> > > > > > > page). All of the hudson.* directories seem to relate to
> NetBeans
> > > > > hudson
> > > > > > > support, not the build.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's a good point.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Installers were always created for NetBeans releases, including
> DMG
> > > > > > installers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looking in the hg repo at Oracle, this is where the related
> scripts
> > > and
> > > > > so
> > > > > > on are found:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/tip/installer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > These have not yet been included in the donation process, since
> we
> > > have
> > > > > > been focusing on clusters (e.g., the 'java' cluster, the 'php'
> > > cluster,
> > > > > > etc) and this 'installer' folder falls outside the clusters.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, we will work on including the installer folder from the hg
> repo
> > > > into
> > > > > > the donation that we're currently working on, i.e., the 3rd
> > donation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Apologies for not thinking about this earlier -- i.e., we've had
> > the
> > > > > > solution all along and simply not yet included them in the
> > donation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can those knowledgeable in this area take a look at the above
> > folder
> > > --
> > > > > it
> > > > > > includes everything needed AFAIK for installers for Windows,
> Linux,
> > > and
> > > > > > Mac.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Finally, the Apache infrastructure has a build bot running on a
> > Mac
> > > > > Mini.
> > > > > > > If the original build scripts can be found, and the proper
> > > > permissions
> > > > > > > acquired on the Mac Build bot, then, ideally, the previous
> build
> > > can
> > > > be
> > > > > > > ported to the new infrastructure.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ideally, this shouldn't have to be a clean room reinvention of
> > the
> > > > > wheel
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > it were deigned to be something that the group still wanted to
> > have
> > > > > > > supported.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But, I don't know.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Carl J. Mosca
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carl J. Mosca
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Carl J. Mosca
>

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