Ok, I get it now, and I agree. Thanks.

-Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rafael Schloming [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:28 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Release numbering suggestion
> 
> 
> Steve Huston wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Riggs, Rob [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Steve Huston [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:03 PM
> >>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> >>> Subject: RE: Release numbering suggestion
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>>> One late suggestion to the thread. after release update
> >> the trunk to
> >>>> 0.7.
> >>> Right, but my point is that this week's 0.7 is not the 
> same as next
> >>> week's 0.7. So you still can't really identify what someone 
> >> is working
> >>> with just by saying 0.7, so what are we really buying with this
> >>> scheme?
> >> Not much for the developers.  Lots for us users.  Us users
> >> can start making RPM packages of development versions and 
> >> know immediately whether a dev or stable version is 
> >> installed.  Right now that is not possible.
> >>
> >> Going forward, you will be working on version 0.7.  I create
> >> a number of qpid 0.7 RPMs as development progresses to test 
> >> various features.  0.7 is released.  Two months later I check 
> >> the packages that are installed on my system. RPM tells me 
> >> qpid 0.7 is installed.  Is it development or a released version?
> > 
> > Ok, I see. Thanks. How do you manage multiple variations on 0.7? Is 
> > that an issue?
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Aidan Skinner [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Steve Huston
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Right, but my point is that this week's 0.7 is not the 
> same as next
> >>> week's 0.7. So you still can't really identify what someone 
> >> is working
> >>> with just by saying 0.7, so what are we really buying with this
> >>> scheme?
> >> We could stick the svn rev as the micro version for
> >> development builds.
> >>
> >> 0.7.8234324 is a bit ugly but gets the point across.
> > 
> > I agree on both points.
> > Is that what users want/need?
> 
> I think to put oneself in the user's mindset you need to forget about 
> branches and JIRA and all that stuff and only think about the version 
> number that the software reports when you type 'foo --version'.
> 
> Right now that number is confusing to them because they could 
> have their 
> hands on a build of a random dev version and a build of a released 
> version of the code, and both would report the same version 
> number. This 
> is true regardless of whether you bump before or after a release.
> 
> If you bump both before *and* after a release then they at least have 
> some indication that if the number reported is odd they are getting 
> potentially incomplete information. I think the ideal would 
> be to bump 
> before and after the release and also have --version report the svn 
> version number as above.
> 
> --Rafael
> 
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