OEMs will always have the power to modify and lock down our code - that doesn’t mean we should’t try to provide a better default.
I don’t think that answer to this problem is a technical one though, more like: - making more information available to consumer so that can make more informed decisions when buying a phone - doing better at trying to support our users (or more to support our community to support Firefox OS users) On 15 Apr 2014, at 9:08 pm, Tim Chien <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think OEMs will leave this feature on on many phones -- many > of the phones contain SIM locks and other customization bits, and they > have the business incentive (or, requirement from their partners) to > prevent people from removing them in day one. > > How are we going to do with those phones? > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Ben Francis <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Fabrice Desré <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> One piece is to provide an *easy* way to change the update channel. >> >> >> This definitely seems like the right solution for Gecko updates, and for >> updates to Gaia apps which absolutely have to be certified. One use case is >> providing an alternative release channel for security updates for devices >> considered end of life by their manufacturers. But another use case is >> providing a pre-release update channel for users to try out pre-release >> versions of Firefox OS like they can with the Nightly, Aurora and Beta >> Firefox release channels in order to contribute to the project by testing. >> We should at a minimum be able to do this for the upcoming reference device. >> >>> Another annoyance is that we still can't update gaia apps without doing >>> a full update. That's pretty ridiculous to not be able to upgrade >>> productivity and media apps for instance. That is blocked on some APIs >>> being only available to certified apps. >> >> >> We've discussed this before and I would really like to see as many as >> possible of the Gaia apps move into the Firefox Marketplace so that they can >> be updated independently of the OS like any other app. >> >> Perhaps a good place to start would be to list the APIs that are forcing >> each Gaia app to be a "certified" app, and look at which of those APIs we >> could feasibly start to transition to being available to privileged apps, or >> the web. >> >> Ben >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dev-b2g mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g >> > > > > -- > Tim Guan-tin Chien, Engineering Manager and Front-end Lead, Firefox > OS, Mozilla Corp. (Taiwan) > _______________________________________________ > dev-b2g mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g _______________________________________________ dev-b2g mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g
